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zvelf

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Would be Watcher

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Subj: Re: I never understood the double standard about Darkseid...
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 01:07:16 pm EST (Viewed 77 times)
Reply Subj: I never understood the double standard about Darkseid...
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 04:48:10 am EST (Viewed 125 times)



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    Yes, there are defeats for Darkseid that I did not enjoy. That superman defeated him is not a problem for me. I can easily see Thanos replacing Darkseid and the result would be the same.
Well, you are a big Superman fan so that's expected.
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    You say Thanos has never been defeated by top-tier that way. I say he was humiliated by far less than that more than once, albeit retconed at every turn after. Even when the comic was clearly humorous in tone (talk about being insecure and overprotective).
Yes, Starlin is overprotective, but that has nothing to do with whether the retcon should be considered canon. Obviously, Marvel editorial approved the retcons and allowed them to be published.
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    Darkseid had a retcon too telling us all the previous times he had been defeated was never his true self. Yet, for some obscure reasons, many accept Thanos retcons with pride no matter how ridiculous some are. But Darkseid's? No. Never.

The only possible retcon I'm not accepting here is the ambiguous one that people attribute to Action Comics #586, which is now being featured in a DC collection called Superman vs. Darkseid. I'd say that makes pretty clear that DC considers this story to be about Darkseid fighting Superman.

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    Superman has beaten him, we cant accept the retcons.
Was Superman vs. Darkseid: Apokolips Now! retconned? No. Was Batman/Superman #13 retconned? No.
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    Squirel Girl, beats Thanos, we readily accept any lame retcon. The NYPD cuff him, after looking like a fool to spiderman? Lets forget about it. Ka-zar defeat him? Never happened! Thor defeat him? It was of course another clone. Guardian of the Galaxy? Nope, retcon we readily accept.

I have reservations about the Thor retcon, but if you had a comic with the Gotham police handcuffing Darkseid, I bet you'd have no problem with DC retconning that away! Are you saying retcons are never justified?




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