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Subj: Re: More like four loses. So it is a pattern. Plus...
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 02:41:32 pm EST (Viewed 165 times)
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    Starlin basically retcons two "losses" and does both in one book on one page. Yet some will make it out as if he has individually retconned double digit losses.

Starlin retonned Thanos's less than stellar showings in Thor, Ka-zar, and Avengers: Celestial Quest with clones.

His death at the hands of Drax was retconned into Thanos being in a "weakened state" in Thanos Annual #1 I believe.

His loss to Squirrel Girl was implicitly retconned by I think a clone of Thanos claiming Thanos had perfected a method of cloning that could fool Watchers. IIRC, this retcon was done by Abett which makes fun of the whole clone/retcon mess.

Then you have the idea that Thanos only looses to self-doubt and not due to anything Adam Warlock or other heroes do. How each story grabs a bigger, more impressive omnipotent source of omnipotent power. Thanos somehow becoming greater than he was before. The tendency for characters to get dumber when around him. The fight with the Annhilators is the most recent I can think of.

So yes, Starlin is highly protective of Thanos and has been for probably the last three decades.

As I recall, no one defeats Thanos in Avengers: Celestial Quest and I don't see where he is shown as less than steller. As a matter of fact, Thanos performs some pretty good feats that were retconned as feats for the clone. This again gives evidence to Starlin's motivation not being entirely due to Thanos losing, but rather characterization he didn't like. And the retcon of all of three happened on one single page, so its not as if he is adding retcons to multiple books.

Being that the Squirrel Girl retcon was not written by Starlin, that would not count against him. And the defeat as well as the retcon were both written by Dan Slott.

The "weakened state" statement made no sense and is basically ignored. Giffen explained that well enough in that Drax specifically serves as "kryptonite" for Thanos. Maybe that is what he meant by Thanos being weakened. Weakened by Drax.

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