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Quote: Curious as to where you guys would put Loki if your putting Dr. Strange at 9, right below Surfer and Thor?
9 as well.
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with Firelord in the 11-12 ballpark. I put Loki in the 12 ballpark, even though head to head I think Loki vs. Strange is a very close fight.
I think the added strength and durability make Loki FAR more formidable in a non prep situation.
I also look at Strange as essentially Surfer without the innate strength and durability, and I think Strange and Loki's magic in generally operate at similar levels.
Firelord is less versatile in use of power cosmic, and isn't as strong or durable as Surfer.
All in all, its a tough call, but Strange gets owned by guys like Spider Man (at least two very quick and easy losses), though he also punches out of his weight class as much as anyone and more than most....