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makkari1

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Braugi

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Subj: Re: It can be done, but again depends on how a very powerful villain is used...
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 at 12:19:42 pm EST (Viewed 85 times)
Reply Subj: It can be done, but again depends on how a very powerful villain is used...
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 at 09:30:43 am EST (Viewed 75 times)



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    They can always be 'too much' but outwitted...like Strange vs. Dormammu has generally been.
I can accept that a major foe can be tricked a few times but after that the major foe becomes a fool for being tricked and outwitted for so many times that all their boasting means nothing.


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    What tends to happen though, and at all levels, is a character struggles with someone seemingly more powerful and eventually finds a way to win.  Then the writer has them team up with other villains, and the same hero figures out how to win, then they get diluted so they're effectively lower tier than the hero they initially seemed more powerful than.....

It can work, as in the case of a teenage Spider Man growing into his powers, but it becomes overused.

I prefer a more consistent framework, consisting of villains and enemies of all levels, and interesting stories that incorporate the right villains at the right levels.
Totally agreed.


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    Many Superman stories centered on him having to save someone from foes demonstrably less powerful than Supes....and some were very good...though admittedly I prefer the hero in the role of the underdog, it was a good way to create tension when you're dealing with a guy near the top of the food chain.
Most of Superman early stories centered on his abilities. For example how fast can Superman save people in a burning building and save Lois from a sinking ship. You know he's gonna do it so the story then becomes how fast he does it. Later stories had him met some foes that could physically challenge him and on even rarer occasions he meets a villain who is beyond even that so Supes powers up to defeat that foe and when that happens Superman grows beyond his normal foes and some fans expect him to operate at the higher levels from now on and when he doesn't then something is wrong. The same is said for high powered beings and when they encounter opponents who are weaker than themselves and they lose consistently then that high powered being is thought of as not being as powerful as they portrayed. Thus the character is overused.      







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