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Subj: Re: Game, set, match
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 at 10:01:20 pm EST (Viewed 177 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Game, set, match
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 at 09:06:22 pm EST (Viewed 168 times)
It was also the same attack which brought the tendril on the apokolips. Don't try to save face now.
What?! Your scan shows nothing of the sort. It shows Earth firing on Apokolips, which was Brainiac 13's attempt to make Darkseid think Earth betrayed him. You were completely wrong and now you're just making stuff up to save face except it only makes you look worse.
Quote:The tendril was attached to Lex Tower and Warworld.
Quote:I'm not the one making stuff up. You're making stuff up wholesale now. I have the OWAW trade sitting in my lap. Earth's attack on Apokolips doesn't create a tendril between Apokolips and Warworld. That doesn't even make sense. The whole point of Brainiac's attack is to make Darkseid think Earth betrayed him and to attack Earth. Warworld attacking Apokolips right after that would defeat that whole purpose. Only after Superman and Darkseid fight does Warworld attack and that's when the tendril is established, the tendril that would weaken Apokolips and Darkseid that occurs AFTER Darkseid's fight with Superman.
Oh right, I'm making stuff now. Right.
I've already proven it kind sir. No reason to throw a fit.
Yes, Brainiac 13 which had already attacked Apokolips and then Superman.
Something you made up again. The thing is when you lie once, you have to keep lying to try to hide your previous lie and then more lies to hide that lie and suddenly we're surrounded by lies. Darkseid explicitly says Superman and Brainiac 13 are to blame. No mention of Imperiex.
Quote:And omega beams were expanded against Imperiex, not Superman.
Quote:Oh, wait, but you said it was Imperiex! So wrong again.
Yes, it was expanded on Imperiex too. Haven't you read the comic?
Quote:At full power Darkseid was able to breach Imperiex armor along with Kismet Superman. That's a better showing than anything Odin or even Galactus have ever done to an abstract level being.
Quote:First Imperiex is not as powerful as you think. Second, this is another of your one-off, plot-device-driven, vague, unquantifiable feats to which you often resort. Third, in this very thread, you call Kismet "Eternity level"! You do so right here:
Yes, he is. He had contained a second big bang.
How is it unquantifiable or vague? Darkseid breached an armor which was able to contain an entire big bang.
Kismet is directly shown a peer to Eternity in JLA/Avengers and is shown as a universal embodiment in Trinity.
That's by default Eternity level.
What's this supposed to mean?
Quote:So all you're saying is that Darkseid with the help of a being you consider a really high-level abstract breached the armor of another "abstract level being." That doesn't say much about Darkseid nor that this is a better showing than anything Odin or Galactus have ever done.
Darkseid was equally contributing there otherwise there was no reason to include him in the attack.
Logic my dear sir.
That blast was what brought the tendril to Apokolips. Brainiac even says that in Action Comics 782.
Quote:There was no tendril in Superman #173. What you're mistaking for a tendril is LexCorp Towers blasting Apokolips.
Quote:I already proved you wrong above. What you're saying here makes no sense. Earth blasted Apokolips and yet that is what created a tendril between Apokolips and Warworld???!
Maybe in your dreams.
All the planets were connected to each other. Not just Warworld and Apokolips.
So just because you don't like it, it's became a hyperbole? Irons stated how powerful they had become because he couldn't break them.
Quote:Yes, the tendrils got stronger, but by exactly how much, we don't know. Irons just said a hundred times as hyperbole like "I feel a hundred times stronger today." It's not like he got out a calculator and some measuring device and did a scientific experiment on the tendrils.
Quote:So do you accept that Thor can resist the weight of 20 planets like he states he does?
Scores of planets is not 20 of them. And when he can resist a ship mast, sure.
Yes, he was. Try again.
Thor was never in a coma. Wrong again. You're like 0 for 100 in just this post. That's just hyperbole by the way. Try not to take it literally.
Quote:Oh and Thor got put in a coma by a ship mast in the same issue.
Quote:Assertion is not proof. Thor was struck by a mast. The next time we see him, he's awake in a bed. No coma. Also, Umar, who approaches Dormammu in power, states that she caused the injury to Thor.
Yes, he was in a coma. Straight up informed that the ship mast was near fatal and it cracked his skull.
Umar only caused the mast to fall on his head. Nothing more.
I've seen you dig even deeper than you think I am which isn't even close to truth. You've lost this debate a long time ago.
Wrong yet again, and it comes with tsking. I mean seriously, in 15 years on these boards, I've never seen anyone dig themselves into a hole as deep as you and you just... keep... digging. Please stop. Seriously, it's okay to be wrong sometimes. So back to my point, this is just the same part of the story retold in a different issue. Look at the scan again at the left most bottom panel. There's Darkseid with Wonder Woman and Raven and he's just regained his power. He was never going to strike all by himself but in concert with Lex Luthor's device. So you're wrong.
That was a different attack than Darkseid's omega beams attack. Tsk, Tsk.
Quote:What is very, very telling though is that you only show that one panel with Irons and omit the rest of that page. Hmm, what does the rest of that page show. Oh! LexCorp is using tech that "will send every other atom of Warworld five minutes into the future"! So it's not just Darkseid's attack that will destroy Warworld as you insinuated. I'm afraid I caught you trying to be misleading yet again by hiding the very evidence that contradicts your claims. Tsk tsk tsk.
Quote:You're the one who cropped the scan to hide you were wrong, and I just proved everything you wrote is wrong and you think I'm losing? That is rich.
That was never my intention to begin with as those were two different Attacks. I was just highlighting Irons statement.
Digging deeper, eh?
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