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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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motifian

Member Since: Sat Jun 10, 2017
Posts: 1,173
Subj: Re: Game, set, match
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 at 09:08:30 pm EST (Viewed 31 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Game, set, match
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 at 10:01:20 pm EST (Viewed 41 times)



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      I'm not the one making stuff up. You're making stuff up wholesale now. I have the OWAW trade sitting in my lap. Earth's attack on Apokolips doesn't create a tendril between Apokolips and Warworld. That doesn't even make sense. The whole point of Brainiac's attack is to make Darkseid think Earth betrayed him and to attack Earth. Warworld attacking Apokolips right after that would defeat that whole purpose. Only after Superman and Darkseid fight does Warworld attack and that's when the tendril is established, the tendril that would weaken Apokolips and Darkseid that occurs AFTER Darkseid's fight with Superman.
    Oh right, I'm making stuff now. Right. I've already proven it kind sir. No reason to throw a fit.


I'm just providing an explanation you have no counter for. Me: Posts scans and logical explanations detailing the story. You: Plug your ears and just keep saying to yourself, "I'm right, I'm right. I have been proven wrong on every point but I'm right."

No one has to take my word for it. I invite everyone to read or reread Our World At War and see, as per my scans, that counter to motifian, Darkseid himself states that Superman and Brainiac 13 are responsible for Darkseid's weakened state (NOT Imperiex), that Brainiac 13 using LexCorp Tower to attack Apokolips establishes no tendril (and doing so wouldn't even make sense at that point in the plot since Brainiac wants Darkseid to attack Earth and Warworld sending a tendril that drains Apokolips would impede Apokolips from attacking Earth), and Darkseid was about to attack Warworld in unison with Lex Luthor using a temporal displacement device before Superman stops both of them from doing so because destroying Warworld would free Imperiex. This scene is depicted twice, once in Wonder Woman #173 and again in Action Comics #782, and they are the same scene, not two different instances. motifian saying they are two different instances is lying brazenly. motifian can't respond with detailed evidence, only vague assertions of himself being correct.


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    Yes, it was expanded on Imperiex too. Haven't you read the comic?


You keep using the word "expanded" when the correct word is "expended." While Darkseid did attack Imperiex with his omegas much earlier in the story, he was not spent nor in any way stated to be in a weakened state afterward.


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        At full power Darkseid was able to breach Imperiex armor along with Kismet Superman. That's a better showing than anything Odin or even Galactus have ever done to an abstract level being.
      First Imperiex is not as powerful as you think. Second, this is another of your one-off, plot-device-driven, vague, unquantifiable feats to which you often resort. Third, in this very thread, you call Kismet "Eternity level"! You do so right here:
    Yes, he is. He had contained a second big bang. How is it unquantifiable or vague? Darkseid breached an armor which was able to contain an entire big bang.


Thor breached the armor of Exitar. I guess that means Thor as powerful as Exitar. That's the kind of logic you're using. It's ridiculous.


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      So all you're saying is that Darkseid with the help of a being you consider a really high-level abstract breached the armor of another "abstract level being." That doesn't say much about Darkseid nor that this is a better showing than anything Odin or Galactus have ever done.
    Darkseid was equally contributing there otherwise there was no reason to include him in the attack. Logic my dear sir.


Logic is clearly not your strong suit. Darkseid contributed to an attack and automatically that means it was an equal contribution, that Darkseid's omegas are Eternity-level. LOL! Galactus once enlisted Thor to help him fight Ego the Living Planet. Since Thor contributed, I guess that means Thor is as powerful as Galactus. *rolls eyes*


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          There was no tendril in Superman #173. What you're mistaking for a tendril is LexCorp Towers blasting Apokolips.
        That blast was what brought the tendril to Apokolips. Brainiac even says that in Action Comics 782.
      I already proved you wrong above. What you're saying here makes no sense. Earth blasted Apokolips and yet that is what created a tendril between Apokolips and Warworld???!
    Maybe in your dreams. All the planets were connected to each other. Not just Warworld and Apokolips.


You're just plain wrong or lying. Right before Superman arrives and starts fighting Darkseid in Adventures of Superman #595, Darkseid and Grayven are talking about attacking Earth because LexCorp Tower fired upon Apokolips . In this fight, Darkseid hits Superman with omegas four or five times, all of which Superman shrugs off (the scans are right here http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?rpy=comicbattles-2018020201334236&layout=thread). If Warworld had attached a tendril that was draining Apokolips, isn't that the far more immediate threat? Why would Darkseid attack Earth if Warworld were attacking Apokolips?


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      So do you accept that Thor can resist the weight of 20 planets like he states he does?
    Scores of planets is not 20 of them. And when he can resist a ship mast, sure.


I'm sorry you don't know what the word "score" means. That's unfortunate.


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            Oh and Thor got put in a coma by a ship mast in the same issue.
          Thor was never in a coma. Wrong again. You're like 0 for 100 in just this post. That's just hyperbole by the way. Try not to take it literally.
        Yes, he was. Try again.
      Assertion is not proof. Thor was struck by a mast. The next time we see him, he's awake in a bed. No coma. Also, Umar, who approaches Dormammu in power, states that she caused the injury to Thor.
    Yes, he was in a coma. Straight up informed that the ship mast was near fatal and it cracked his skull.


Nowhere in that issue does the word "coma" appear. Your own scans prove that what I said is true. The next time we see Thor after he is struck by the mast, an injury Umar herself stated she caused, Thor is awake, not in a coma.







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