Comic Battle - Re: Dan Jurgen's take on Darkseid, Doomsday, and Superman

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zvelf

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motifian

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Subj: Re: Dan Jurgen's take on Darkseid, Doomsday, and Superman
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 at 09:12:36 pm EST (Viewed 75 times)

Reply Subj: Re: Dan Jurgen's take on Darkseid, Doomsday, and Superman
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 at 10:17:39 pm EST (Viewed 90 times)

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No, Darkseid just takes a few steps before Doomsday emerges from the rubble.

And? It was a loss by counting if you want boxing terms.

Yeah, because in boxing, you get buried by buildings all the time!

So Doomsday couldn't escape the rubble, huh?

Of course Doomsday escaped the rubble. He escaped the rubble then nearly killed Darkseid.

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You just contradicted yourself. Doomsday "resurrects" immediately from Darkseid's attack and he never comes back to life after OWAW. Some regeneration! No, you're just making up stuff again. No one reads Hunter/Prey thinking Darkseid killed Doomsday except you.

Because entropy is the only attack he can't regenerate from. It's what killed him in Hunter Prey and that's what Imperiex did to him in OWAW.

You just completely made that up about Imperiex. I told you I have the OWAW trade and can flip to any page to identify all the stuff you brazenly make up. Imperiex simply blasts Doomsday in one shot and turns him into a skeleton. There's no statement or narration saying anything whatsoever about an entropy attack.

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Yes, yes, we get it. You think Darkseid is more powerful than Odin and Galactus. You think Doomsday is more powerful than Odin and Galactus. You think everyone in DC is more powerful than Odin and Galactus. I mean you're on record for thinking Odin is a weakling, so we know where you stand.

I accept your concession. No need to pout about it.

You said earlier that H/P Doomsday would kill any skyfather. Let's see, who was able to fight H/P Doomsday at length, for a much longer duration than Darkseid? Oh, Superman. I guess you think Superman is more powerful than Odin and Galactus too.

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I'm talking about how you took Darkseid losing to Doomsday and Doomsday being a peer to Superman at face value but rejects it as soon as it comes to Thor. I'm not taking anything in that interview seriously. It's you who is taking one part of the interview as truth and rejecting another part. Stick to it kid.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I already stated from the start that I don't consider interviews canon. The only time I think they're useful is when the author clarifies vague points. I'm being consistent. You've used interviews plenty in the past, but all of a sudden you don't believe in this one. How convenient.

No, you're trying your best to lowball Darkseid. If you can't do it from comics, you're using interviews now.

I'm not trying to lowball Darkseid. I'm just presenting him as he is in some of his most famous fights. As I've stated, I like Darkseid as a villain. I think he should be depicted more powerful than he has been a lot of the time, not totally out of reach of a Superman, but certainly a strong teambuster. He appears to be like that now, someone who can fight the Justice League close to evenly. But for most of the period after Crisis on Infinite Earths and before New 52, that is for 25 years, Darkseid appeared closer to Superman in power level than a top-tier teambuster. All the scans I posted here attest to that.

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What Jurgens says in interviews and shows in comics are two different things. As you say interviews are irrelevant.

You're right that I don't take interviews seriously. I made that caveat from the start and just posted this interview for people who do. And YOU are one of them as you often cite interviews as supporting evidence. Of course now that the interview blatantly contradicts you, now you want to say it's irrelevant. So are all the interviews you've used in the past irrelevant too?

You say you don't take the interview seriously? Stop arguing about it as if it's proof then.

See, I just proved once again that you just cherry pick what counts for you.

Heh, I'm cherry picking? So why does Jurgens is right about what he says about Darkseid and wrong about Thor?

It's in one ear and out the other for you. I already stated that Jurgens retracted what he was about Thor. Jurgens did not retract what he said about Darkseid, Doomsday, and Superman.

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