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Subj: Re: Yup...
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 at 11:01:43 pm EST (Viewed 381 times)
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 at 03:00:25 pm EST (Viewed 404 times)


      Incorrect. Superman was already stronger than Thor since Byrne era. He was still the strongest hero on earth while Thor wasn't. In fact Superman of year one era fought and stalemated savage Hulk who is at least Thor's equal in strength.

    In that book, Hulk outdoes him in tests of strength and Superman makes up for it with flight, surprise and speed.

Not even close. In fact when Luthor traps them both, it's Superman who throws Hulk outside when Hulk was unable to break the energy barrier.


      Hardly. Heat vision has proved more devastating than anything Thor has produced save godblast which is a rarely used ability anyway.

    It's telling that you have to restrict Thor for Superman to match. The godblast has been used enough to be standard. But standard lighting surpasses Superman's hv:

Thor's godblast is used approximately under two writers, Dan Jurgens and Tom Defalco after Stan Lee introduced it.

Hardly standard.

And what are these random scenes supposed to portray? Superman has straight up incinerated class 100 bricks. Thor wishes he was that powerful via lightning.


      Superman is a clear favorite against Thor and Surfer both.


        In fact Surfer was shown struggling against Cyborg Superman who Superman utterly stomped by the same writer. Surfer has also never beaten Thor while Superman has.

    Yet, Superman has been written struggling against Cyborg Superman. Surfer took Hulk down easier than Superman did a weaker Hulk. Surfer crushed Orion in a way that Superman has not even come close to doing. Standard Thor could not inflict as much damage to Surfer as he did Superman.

Not since 1995. Last time Superman simply punched through Henshaw and disabled him.

Merged Hulk was stronger than savage hulk.

Byrne's Surfer was an anomaly and above his standard power. Even then Brainiac crushed Orion far worse than Surfer did and Superman straight up crushed Brainiac.

Thor dented Surfer's head while weakened. He crushed Surfer with Warlock.

Don't make me laugh.


      There is no precedent for Surfer to be a favorite against Superman. In fact Dan Jurgens said Superman would beat Surfer 99 times out of 100.

    RC said that he said that. That's sort of hearsay.

Jurgens confirmed it.

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