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motifian

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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zvelf

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Subj: Re: Another Battle Scan: Superman vs. Darkseid: Action Comics #586
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 at 11:52:01 pm EST (Viewed 117 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Another Battle Scan: Superman vs. Darkseid: Action Comics #586
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 at 08:14:24 pm EST (Viewed 105 times)



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        In MOS 116, in the same arc Superman ran away from his omega beams and used entropy aegis to shield himself.
      Why would that be if he can take the blast with no issues?



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    Different writer, different take.


In the same arc? The Superman writers were well informed from the get go about the whole arc.

It means either Superman was more powerful or Darkseid was weakened. Pick one.


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            Again, Desaad masquerading as Darkseid in #643 does not at all mean he was doing the same in #586.
          Yes, it does.
        How?
      It shows he has a habit of masquerading as Darkseid.



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    Nothing about #643 indicates that it was Desaad in #586. By your logic, Desaad is always Darkseid.


Only where he is shown as such.


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          And you said yourself that this was a clean win for Thor.
        I said it was a clean win for Thor WITH his belt of strength. I then retracted this after being reminded that he still had a portion of the armor on and that gave him an additional power up. In any case, even if it were Thor with just his belt of strength, it's not completely fair to compare Thor with his belt of strength beating Thanos (once) to normal Superman beating Darkseid (3 different times). Thor with his belt of strength would crush Superman too.
      A clean win doesn't has any asterisks and you said that the belt of strength is a normal power set for Thor.



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    It is. It's perfectly fair for Thor to pull out his belt of strength and use it in a fight. It's part of his power set. BUT if Thor did that against Superman, he'd win easily. But again, I had forgotten that Thor still had a portion of the Odin-Force IN ADDITION to his belt of strength so you can use my words in your petty way, but I already admitted my error.


Oh right, it works for Thor when you want but does not works against Thanos. Good way of having your cake and eating it too.

Only the shield had the Odin force as stated by Thor. It was only his belt of strength.


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      Superman has never beaten Darkseid without Darkseid being injured or Superman being amped.



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    I'll just let the scans in this very thread speak for themselves, and they show Superman beating Darkseid in three different instances very clearly. Superman doesn't just stun Darkseid, your ridiculous definition of a win, but beats Darkseid so badly Darkseid has to admit defeat.


Yeah, right. Only after Darkseid injures himself. Which you're only ignoring till now.

I take your concession once again.