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Subj: OK, so why...a few of you have touched on it...
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 02:21:25 pm EST (Viewed 332 times)
Reply Subj: My basic impressions of the movies, and how much I have liked the respective stuff
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 10:57:23 am EST (Viewed 283 times)

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So, I liked Wonder Woman a lot, and I enjoyed Suicide Squad, but I found JLA to be mediocre at best, and I felt Bats vs. Superman went on too long...Doomsday was an afterthought, and Superman's death didn't have the impact it could have. MOS was OK, not great IMO, but better than JLA or B vs. Superman.

I actually enjoyed about 75% of Suicide Squad, but felt the Joker was overused and actually took away from the cohesion of the movie...villain wasn't great, but acting was good, and I liked some of the characterizations. Still wasn't great.

For the Marvel movies, I think some of them get too much credit, but save for Iron Man 3, I've really enjoyed all of them. I think Spider Man Homecoming is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time, and I also really liked Ragnarok.

On the TV side, I like that Marvel is still in the same shared universe for Agent Carter and the Shield show, but I'm not the biggest fan of Agents of started OK, but they've gone too hard and heavy into Kree and Inhumans...I understand why, but that makes it a loser for me.

As far as the DC TV goes, I like the Arrowverse, the interconnectivity, the characters, the actors, etc. I still think Legends is the weakest, though I have liked Rory as a character...frankly, I like the Arrow and Flash characters enough that I would have preferred them to what we saw in JLA...

in that the Marvel movies feel more like Superhero movies and are more willing to incorporate humor, and do so pretty effectively....

I think that rings true to a large degree. I think there are other contributing factors though.

Marvel kind of stumbled onto a formula of teasing some upcoming stuff at the end of movies, but also let us not have to spend every film doing an origin...meaning that we get more ability to develop the antagonists....JLA forced characters together and didn't do a great job of it, and also didn't develop the villain it fell flat. It also made it feel like they needed Superman for anything...too dependent on one powerful character.

Doomsday, the death of Superman gets tacked on to the end of an a movie spent building up the angst that Batman has over Superman...sorry, but it would have been better to build the JLA up first so they could fight Doomsday and fail, and do a PROPER job of the death of Superman, which deserved its own event...

Yeah, I can say 'poor writing', but I don't know what constraints anyone was working under. Marvel developed the interconnectivity more organically, so were first and foremost concerned with making a good Iron Man movie, and then Hulk movie (though the Hulk wasn't as successful).

DC had the opportunity to plan a little better, and used it to focus only on the later result, not a quality film at the start that builds. I think they could have learned and done a better job than Marvel, but every film feels like a restart, not a continuation....

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