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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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motifian

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Subj: Re: Game, set, match
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 04:40:05 pm EST (Viewed 107 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Game, set, match
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 12:47:18 pm EST (Viewed 91 times)



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          No one has to take my word for it. I invite everyone to read or reread Our World At War and see, as per my scans, that counter to motifian, Darkseid himself states that Superman and Brainiac 13 are responsible for Darkseid's weakened state (NOT Imperiex), that Brainiac 13 using LexCorp Tower to attack Apokolips establishes no tendril (and doing so wouldn't even make sense at that point in the plot since Brainiac wants Darkseid to attack Earth and Warworld sending a tendril that drains Apokolips would impede Apokolips from attacking Earth), and Darkseid was about to attack Warworld in unison with Lex Luthor using a temporal displacement device before Superman stops both of them from doing so because destroying Warworld would free Imperiex. This scene is depicted twice, once in Wonder Woman #173 and again in Action Comics #782, and they are the same scene, not two different instances. motifian saying they are two different instances is lying brazenly. motifian can't respond with detailed evidence, only vague assertions of himself being correct.
        Yes guys, let's all read OWAW again.
      At least YOU should because you're getting it wrong at every turn including in this very post.
    Funny that when you have already been proven wrong at several times in this very thread.


Said with complete vagueness and without any proof whatsoever.


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      Did you not even read what I wrote? You said that Darkseid could destroy Warworld all by himself with one blast of the omegas. I proved you wrong by showing the comic had Lex Luthor working in unison to launch a temporal displacement attack at the same time that would scatter Warworld's atoms across time.
    Yes, Wonder Woman 173 implies that. Action Comics 782 is a different scene with Lex trying to send Warworld in the future. Those are not even related.


That's just completely and flat out wrong.


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            Yes, it was expanded on Imperiex too. Haven't you read the comic?
          You keep using the word "expanded" when the correct word is "expended." While Darkseid did attack Imperiex with his omegas much earlier in the story, he was not spent nor in any way stated to be in a weakened state afterward.
        So Darkseid didn't use omega beams on Imperiex?
      Darkseid did, but that wasn't why Darkseid was weakened. Darkseid states himself that Superman and Brainiac 13 are responsible for his weakness in the comics, not Imperiex.
    Yes and B13 attacked Apokolips first weakening Darkseid.


Thank you for admitting you were wrong on blaming Imperiex. But you're still wrong about the order of events. Brainiac 13 only attacked and weakened Apokolips AFTER Darkseid's fight with Superman. It was Brainiac's very attack that interrupted the fight between Darkseid and Superman.


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            Yes, he is. He had contained a second big bang. How is it unquantifiable or vague? Darkseid breached an armor which was able to contain an entire big bang.
          Thor breached the armor of Exitar. I guess that means Thor as powerful as Exitar. That's the kind of logic you're using. It's ridiculous.
        Thor branched the armor with belt of strength and getting power from a planet's magneto sphere. It certainly makes him more powerful than Odin in that condition who was unable to do anything to Arishem, don't agree?
      You're conflating two different things. Thor absorbed power from the planet and used it to attack Arishem, which didn't do anything to Arishem. Separately, Thor attacked Exitar while wearing his belt of strength. So I guess you are saying Thor with his belt of strength is equal in power to Exitar. Still nonsense.
    Yes, that makes Thor with belt of strength more powerful than Odin, right?


Only according to your bizarro logic.


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    And Celestials were nerfed. Defalco wrote them as peers to the watchers when earlier they were more powerful than Galactus.


Wow, so you are serious when you consider Thor and Exitar equal in power. So much for your credibility. Also the Celestials were beating the Watchers easily and were about to wipe out all the Watchers so no, they weren't equals.


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    Thor also made a small gap in the armor which Exitar did not notice. Darkseid and Superman destroyed Imperiex body.


You forgot to mention the part about your "Eternity"-level Kismet playing the biggest part in that. LOL! Maybe if Thor had Eternity-level power, he would have made a bigger hole, you think?


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        If Darkseid was shown contributing in it, it was significant.
      You didn't write "significant." You wrote "equal" as in Darkseid's omegas were equal to the attack of an Eternity-level being.
    No, I didn't.


You make up so much stuff you can't even keep track of the stuff you make up. You stated, "Darkseid was EQUALLY contributing there otherwise there was no reason to include him in the attack" right in this post:

http://comicboards.com/php/show.php?rpy=comicbattles-2018020803012034


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          You're just plain wrong or lying. Right before Superman arrives and starts fighting Darkseid in Adventures of Superman #595, Darkseid and Grayven are talking about attacking Earth because LexCorp Tower fired upon Apokolips . In this fight, Darkseid hits Superman with omegas four or five times, all of which Superman shrugs off (the scans are right here http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?rpy=comicbattles-2018020201334236&layout=thread). If Warworld had attached a tendril that was draining Apokolips, isn't that the far more immediate threat? Why would Darkseid attack Earth if Warworld were attacking Apokolips?
        Because Lex tower was the power center of Brainiac and Brainiac used Lex tower to send the tendril to Apokolips and had Darkseid think Earth attacked him. In fact at the end the same blast is shown to have brought the tendril to Apokolips.
      *sigh* You're making stuff up again. LexCorp Tower blasting Apokolips does not in any way create either a tendril between Earth and Apokolips and certainly no tendril between Apokolips and Warworld.
    Yes, it does. It's what allowed B13 to seize Apokolips.


You just keep asserting with no proof whatsoever. Nevermind that it makes no sense if the story were told that way.


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        Sif straight up says that the attack of the mast was near fatal and he was down for the count. That's what coma means my dear sir.
      Your lack of English skills is affecting you again. That is most definitely not what "coma" means.
    Yes, it does. Coma means it's uncertain if the patient will wake up with severe head trauma. That's exactly what happened here.


Sometimes doctors purposely induce comas, which doesn't mean they administer head trauma to the patient. In any case, there's is no "uncertainty" as to whether Thor wakes up because in the panel we next see Thor, Thor is already awake! Thus by your own definition, Thor was not ever in a coma.





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