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motifian

Member Since: Sat Jun 10, 2017
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Late Great Donald Blake

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Subj: Re: Thor in a close one. Multi-directional lightning neutralizes speed.
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 10:19:34 pm EST (Viewed 86 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Thor in a close one. Multi-directional lightning neutralizes speed.
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 01:15:38 pm EST (Viewed 154 times)





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    LGDB: This is all either conjecture or bad evidence on your part. The strength feats you mention here, Thor never tries and fails. We don't get to see him attempt them so we can't say whether he can match or exceed them. The Kurse boulder idea I guess you've reached a pretty bizarre conclusion with. Kurse lifts a boulder, and also in some sense, appears stronger than Thor, so you conclude Thor can't lift the boulder? This is pretty ridiculous. What we do know is Thor fights the Hulk barehanded and ostensibly wins the fight in Thor Ragnarok. Hulk MIGHT be somewhat stronger--it's hard to tell--but it's pretty clear they're depicted in a similar class. Enough that Thor can effectively fight the Hulk in hand to hand match.


So we are supposed to believe that as Thor never tries and fails in doing it, he can do it? Why not say Captain America can do those things too.

Yes, Kurse appeared to be stronger because he was presented that way.

Hulk caught Thor's two handed hammer attack with one hand and was beating him until Thor used his lightning powers.

Hulk wasn't "might be" stronger than Thor. He was flat out stronger than Thor.


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    As far as durability, none of your examples speak to the issue, and in the cinematic universe Thor basically hasn't been TKO'd yet so we haven't seen what his limits might be such that you'd know if Superman's exceeded his.


Yes, he has been koed. You're again using no limit fallacy as your proof.


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    Simply put, Superman is the strongest hero in his own universe... because Thor and Hulk aren't in his universe.



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    Doomsday is far beyond Thor in strength or lightning powers as shown in the movies.



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    LGDB: Why even make this claim if you're not going to attempt to argue for it, explain it, or provide evidence? I've just watched the Doomsday appearances in the Batman vs Superman movie. Doomsday's lightning does nothing impressive. How could you conclude that it's more powerful than Thor unless that's already a preconceived conclusion you're harboring?



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    LGDB


Doomsday's lightning rips apart buildings for several blocks in one blast and overpowered Superman completely with one energy blast.

How is it not impressive? What did Thor do with his lightning that was so impressive? Give Malekith a burn?


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