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motifian

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Olorin

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Subj: Re: As a baseline, I put Thor and Surfer both at 15, Loki at 12...but I may have been a little low on Loki
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 10:49:03 pm EST (Viewed 224 times)
Reply Subj: Re: As a baseline, I put Thor and Surfer both at 15, Loki at 12...but I may have been a little low on Loki
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 01:59:06 pm EST (Viewed 136 times)



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        I may not agree completely or even disagree about some of your points....

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          The Darkseid statement of being in a similar class to Galactus and Odin is definitely not accurate - i like Darkseid as a character for the most part - when he is not being watered down.

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        Of course it's accurate. Odin and Galactus are both in skyfather class, same as Darkseid.



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    Based on average portrayals that statement is debatable. For instance, many people put Thanos on the same level as Darkseid. Thanos vs. Darkseid is a very popular debate. Thanos is teambuster (a step below skyfather). He was owned in his fight with Odin (albeit, the fight was in Asgard). And some people believe Galactus is a step above skyfather.


Just because a few people think so doesn't means it's true or even accepted.


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        Darkseid was treated as a lower weight class opponent than Galactus in the crossover - i believe Darkseid vs Galactus actually - or maybe the Surfer/Green Lantern one - it was the ninties - my memory isnt as good as it used to be lol.

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        That's because Byrne had a very high opinion of Galactus who in his opinion would treat Odin the same way. It's not how he is portrayed on average though.

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          And even there a few giants created by Darkseid overpowered Galactus.



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    I don't have the comic in front of me, but that characterization of how it went down is a bit of a stretch if I remember correctly. Maybe someone can provide scans. I mean, Darkseid uses his Omega Beams on Galactus and Galactus completely no-sells it. He then blasts Darkseid away.


Yes, Darkseid used wipe effect on Galactus which was undone because Byrne's Galactus was an integral part of the universe.

Otherwise Galactus was overpowered by a few giants created by Darksied.

http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media/Darkseid%20vs%20Galactus%20The%20Hunger/dg-23_zpskvthks8d.jpg.html
http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media/Darkseid%20vs%20Galactus%20The%20Hunger/dg-24_zpsfijjkrv2.jpg.html
http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media/Darkseid%20vs%20Galactus%20The%20Hunger/dg-25_zpsimguxw29.jpg.html
http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media/Darkseid%20vs%20Galactus%20The%20Hunger/dg-25_zpsimguxw29.jpg.html
http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media/Darkseid%20vs%20Galactus%20The%20Hunger/dg-26_zpsbfdjog6u.jpg.html

The narrative directly calls it a Victory.




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