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Subj: Re: Yup...
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 11:00:13 pm EST (Viewed 139 times)
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 01:09:46 pm EST (Viewed 117 times)
Precedent is set by the comics. Quote from Jurgens is just icing on the cake. Jurgens word doesn't sets precedent.
Quote:Do you always flagrantly deny what's right there on the page? The first quote above is yours saying, "There is no precedent for Surfer to be a favorite against Superman. In fact Dan Jurgens said Superman would beat Surfer 99 times out of 100."
Quote:Icing on what cake? You just claimed there is no precedent, therefore there's no cake on which to add icing. You're not making the least bit of sense while still being a hypocrite by quoting Jurgens while simultaneously saying "interviews are irrelevant" in another thread when the interview completely goes against your point of view.
Superman being above Surfer.
Jurgens can't set precedent because of one statement. It's purely from comics.
Because in actual comics Jurgens portrayed Doomsday and Darkseid as far more powerful than Superman.
Quote:I'm digging? I just pointed out how you brazenly use one Jurgens statement (Superman > Surfer) as evidence while at the same time denying a whole host of Jurgens statements (Doomsday = Superman > Darkseid).
Quote:Well, that's your unproven assumption. That whole thread was a debate about who's more powerful between Superman and Darkseid. I posted three fights in which Superman outright defeated Darkseid and named three fights in which Superman stalemated Darkseid. You tried to name "far more" and only came up with seven, most of which were not remotely close to wins for Darkseid. In two of those examples, you use a young, inexperienced Superman, which you try to excuse losing to Orion in this very thread for being young. You flip flop on your criteria all the time depending on which character you want to promote.
That's not even debatable. Superman was unable to scratch apokolptian missiles.
Weakened Darkseid evaporated the same missiles.
Darkseid also destroyed Cyborg Superman with one blast at full power.
And this was a highly amped Superman.
Quote:There is no such scene regarding Superman and Surfer written by Jurgens so we have to go on his word.
Quote:Why do we have to go on his word if you think "interviews are irrelevant." Those are your exact words, the last words of this post:
Because that's what he thinks about Superman and Surfer and how he would write a fight between both.
In presence of a comic, interviews are irrelevant if they contradict the comic.