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motifian

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zvelf

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Subj: Re: Yup...
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 at 02:30:31 am EST (Viewed 79 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Yup...
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 at 10:16:29 am EST (Viewed 95 times)



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            Do you always flagrantly deny what's right there on the page? The first quote above is yours saying, "There is no precedent for Surfer to be a favorite against Superman. In fact Dan Jurgens said Superman would beat Surfer 99 times out of 100."
          Precedent is set by the comics. Quote from Jurgens is just icing on the cake. Jurgens word doesn't sets precedent.
        Icing on what cake? You just claimed there is no precedent, therefore there's no cake on which to add icing. You're not making the least bit of sense while still being a hypocrite by quoting Jurgens while simultaneously saying "interviews are irrelevant" in another thread when the interview completely goes against your point of view.
      Superman being above Surfer. Jurgens can't set precedent because of one statement. It's purely from comics.



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    But there is no precedent set in the comics so there can be no icing on any cake, which is what I just wrote before but you just repeated yourself nonsensically!


Yes, there is. Surfer was shown as an underdog against Cyborg Superman and Thor. Both of whom Superman has defeated cleanly.


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            I'm digging? I just pointed out how you brazenly use one Jurgens statement (Superman > Surfer) as evidence while at the same time denying a whole host of Jurgens statements (Doomsday = Superman > Darkseid).
          Because in actual comics Jurgens portrayed Doomsday and Darkseid as far more powerful than Superman.
        Well, that's your unproven assumption. That whole thread was a debate about who's more powerful between Superman and Darkseid. I posted three fights in which Superman outright defeated Darkseid and named three fights in which Superman stalemated Darkseid. You tried to name "far more" and only came up with seven, most of which were not remotely close to wins for Darkseid. In two of those examples, you use a young, inexperienced Superman, which you try to excuse losing to Orion in this very thread for being young. You flip flop on your criteria all the time depending on which character you want to promote.
      That's not even debatable. Superman was unable to scratch apokolptian missiles. Weakened Darkseid evaporated the same missiles.



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    Desperation move. Everyone on this board accepts direct head-to-head results way over random feats. Direct head-to-head results: Superman 3, Darkseid 0. Who cares how Superman and Darkseid compare against missiles or one instance against Cyborg Superman when Superman has outright beaten Darkseid on his own three different times?


Superman has only beaten Darkseid when he is hit by his own omega beams which are far superior to anything Superman can dish out.

Try again.


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      Because that's what he thinks about Superman and Surfer and how he would write a fight between both.



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    No, that's just a statement a writer made. It's not canon. It has not been actually depicted in a book and vetted by an editor. And you even agreed that "interviews are irrelevant," but here you are being a hypocrite.


It's their opinion and it has far more weight than mine or yours because they actually write these characters.

How am I being a hypocrite.


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