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Subj: Re: As a baseline, I put Thor and Surfer both at 15, Loki at 12...but I may have been a little low on Loki Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 at 11:27:48 am CST (Viewed 143 times) | Reply Subj: Re: As a baseline, I put Thor and Surfer both at 15, Loki at 12...but I may have been a little low on Loki Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 at 01:26:32 am CST (Viewed 154 times) | ||||||
Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: That's a young Superman who was taken by surprise by Orion.Quote: Ah, I see, motifian's latest made-up rule: first fights don't count! LOL!Your excuse above wasn't that Superman wasn't taking it seriously but that this was his first meeting with Orion. Second, there's no indication whatsoever that Superman isn't taking this fight seriously. Quote: Quote: Quote: I like how you discarded Superman's own statements because it throws a wrench in your theory. The fact though is that Superman hit Orion, who simply shrugged it off and then Orion one-shot Superman. Quote: Superman wasn't stunned by his haymaker not working. He was just questioning Orion.Just questioning = complete surprise that his punch only "almost hurt" Orion. Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Now it doesn't count for Orion because Superman is young but somehow it counts for Darkseid! You repeatedly change your standards depending on whether you like the character. The catalogue of you doing this is almost endless.I see that you can't deny that you hold different standards for wins/losses based on whether you favor the character at hand. In your version of Darkseid beating Superman, he's briefly immobilized, still struggling to free himself, and never actually even attacks Darkseid in this non-fight and you count that as a defeat. Orion knocks Superman completely out, carries off Superman's limp body by his cape, opens a boom tube, takes Superman elsewhere, and only then Superman wakes up, and that's somehow not a defeat! You say Superman is stunned, but Orion actually tells him to "Wake up." You don't wake up from being stunned. You wake up from being unconscious, which is what Superman was. ![]() Quote: Only you will think it shows Orion was more powerful than Superman.I was responding to your saying that Orion has NEVER looked superior to Superman. I wasn't saying that in general Orion is more powerful than Superman, which is debatable. But certainly in this instance, Orion looked superior to Superman and knocked him out in a clean fight. How to make an entrance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49xWJJvpjzI | |||||||
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