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motifian

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zvelf

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Subj: Re: Dan Jurgen's take on Darkseid, Doomsday, and Superman
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 at 11:12:21 pm EST (Viewed 29 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Dan Jurgen's take on Darkseid, Doomsday, and Superman
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 at 12:52:37 pm EST (Viewed 30 times)



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      Now you are again backpeddling. You said Doomsday was resurrected in H/P. It wasn't hence the scenario was just killing Doomsday which was shown in the bio.



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    Okay, Doomsday didn't literally revive in H/P. That occurred in a page or two from another comic, but for all intents and purposes, the story is about what happens directly after his resurrection and that's what the bio is depicting.


That's not what you said and that's not what is shown in the bio too.

Misrepresented much?


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        The narration says it's about the times Doomsday comes back. Doomsday came back in OWAW after Doomsday Wars.
      Doomsday wasn't killed in Doomsday wars. He was trapped in a teleportational loop.



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    And he came back from that.


The narrative was about him getting killed and coming back.

It wasn't strolling in a park and coming back.


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      Entropy in DC is stated to be lack of energy and matter. Hence why when Superman dies in Superman 173 and brought back to life in AOS 595, he states he died because of entropy.



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    As made up by you.


Fantastic argument right there.


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        Superman was more powerful than before he died, BUT that power-up is different from the extra power you are referring to when he lost control of his powers.
      It was straight up stated to be from Kryptonite X in Superman man of Tomorrow 9.



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    Which has nothing to do with how powerful Superman was during H/P, a completely different storyline.


It's a concurrent storyline and written by the same writers.

Of course it has everything to do with the power up.


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      I've posted scans as well. You're just in denial now.



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    All misleading scans trying to conflate two different stories that did not overlap or refer to each other.


Way to go.


Once again, the scans are already posted for anyone to see.




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          So Superman is indeed a million times more powerful than Thor?
        So you're taking seriously a retraction in an interview that you also say is irrelevant?
      So you take your claim as Doomsday=Superman>Darkseid back? Because it looks like you will only accept anything as long as it suits the Marvel characters.



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    Nope, I don't take anything back. I only presented what Jurgens stated, not as my own opinion, but as his, and his was very clearly stated that Doomsday = Superman > Darkseid.


Of course you don't.

The comics don't reflect that and hence it's irrelevant.


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      It links to a post from Thor board which is not found. It's not part of the interview.



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    That's because the addresses on this board were changed many years ago. The post still exists, the link is just wrong. Here is the post with a very clear retraction by Jurgens:



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    https://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=thor-2004022320110600


Another post by Jurgens. Not a part of the interview. Dismissed.


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    Jurgens states that in his opinion, if they fought 10 times, neither would take more than 6 out of the 10.


That's not what he said in the interview. He said Thor would win because of magic weakness.


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      What you interpret is not what is stated in the interview. Jurgens meant that Superman is millions of times more powerful in THAT interview. As you take Darkseid comment seriously, take that as well. I don't take that whole interview seriously. But as you are using that as a proof, be prepared to really what you sow.



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    I don't have to because first, as I have repeatedly stated that have fallen on your deaf ears, I don't consider interviews canon, and second, Jurgens retracted what he said that you want to affirm. Jurgens did not retract his stances about Darkseid, Doomsday, and Superman that are diametrically opposed to yours.


Those are diametrically opposed to what he wrote too. Hence dismissed.

Try once again.


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