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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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In Reply To
motifian

Member Since: Sat Jun 10, 2017
Posts: 1,633
Subj: Re: Game, set, match
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 at 08:03:00 am EST (Viewed 45 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Game, set, match
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 at 11:28:10 pm EST (Viewed 52 times)



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    Superman is so weak and so is Darkseid, huh?


I never called either weak. However, you called Odin a weakling, but then you stated you thought Darkseid was only 30% as powerful. You later amended that to be only 10% more powerful, so you think Darkseid is only 10% above weakling. So you should focus that accusation against yourself.


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    Yes, you lost several debates in thread. Don't be sorry, you'll lose even more with the rate you are going.


Not based on the supportive messages I've been getting from others on this board. Based on outside feedback, you're the one who is losing badly.


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              Wow. You're going to flat out deny what's right there on the page for everyone to see. Right there on the page, you see John talking to Lex and Wonder Woman talking to John and then Superman talking to John to stop the whole attack at which point Wonder Woman stops Darkseid. Same scene referenced in two different comics.
            No, they aren't. It's simple actually.
          I love it. So simple that you can't explain it.
        I've already explained it.
      I ask you for an explanation, one you say is simple, and instead of providing it, you can only say that you've already done it when in fact, you haven't. You can't have lost this debate more badly.
    I've already done it.


See, you're admitting you lost again.


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    You lost, get over it.



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            It wasn't exhausted on Superman as per Superman himself. And Darkseid still had omega beams when he used it on Grayven.
          Thanks for writing a rebuttal that contradict your whole point. Your whole point is that Superman was able to take Darkseid's omegas in this issue because Darkseid had "expended" it on Imperiex earlier. Now you're saying the omegas were fine because he used them on Grayven (to banish him) RIGHT after fighting Superman. Thanks for making my point for me. Superman took non-exhausted omega beams over and over again and was just fine.
        It shows that the omega beams were expanded on several characters and noone was solely responsible for it.
      LOL! You're scrambling to make up some explanation. That was NEVER your explanation for Darkseid being weakened throughout this entire thread. All of a sudden, it's your new explanation. But no, Darkseid himself doesn't lay blame on a bunch of different characters. He names Superman, who is responsible for Darkseid's expending his omegas, and Brainiac 13, who is responsible for the energy tendril sapping Apokolips.
    But Superman says it's his omega beams expanding. So if he expanded it all on Superman as you said, how is he doing it on Grayven?


I explained it below.


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    So I take you think Superman>>>Imperiex?


We've already gone through this. You stated the attack against Imperiex had the help of an Eternity-level being. Darkseid did squat next to that.


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        Hence why your logic that it was expanded on Superman makes no sense. Where did he attack Grayven with omega beams then?
      Darkseid's omegas in that instance isn't a destructive beam but a teleportation beam that banishes Grayven. It's weaker than a destructive beam.
    But you said Darkseid expanded it all on Superman and Brainiac drained Apokolips. How can he use omega beams on Grayven if it all expanded on Superman?


Darkseid still had enough power to banish Grayven, but not destroy him. Your avenue of logic however far more contradicts what you've been saying throughout this entire thread, which is that Darkseid has expended his omegas on Imperiex long before this scene.


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      Your lack of logic knows no limits. Just because Exitar didn't kill all of the Watchers because he was stopped by the Fantastic Four doesn't mean he wasn't about to. In any case, what you actually wrote was, "Exitar was STATED to conserve power solely for the SINGLE Watcher." I already proved that utterly wrong. Again, the comic STATES, "Behold! For the last several thousand year, Exitar the Exterminator has gathered his energies for the sole purpose of eradicating US from this particular reality! The One will vanish first. The REST will follow." So you're wrong.
    He wasn't stopped by Fantastic Four immediately. He had ample time to attack any Watcher but didn't.


You're just moving the goal posts now. You've already lost this debate by endlessly contradicting yourself.





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