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Subj: Re: I remember when Shang-Chi said Daredevil took his title as “Master of Kung-Fu”..
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 at 10:52:48 am EST (Viewed 306 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I remember when Shang-Chi said Daredevil took his title as “Master of Kung-Fu”..
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 at 12:25:44 pm EST (Viewed 193 times)



        Danny could be wrong, but given his level of training and the context of his assessment, it doesn't sound like Danny is exuding bravado, just trying to give a frank account of Daredevil's level. I think if the author didn't want the reader to believe Danny, then it would have been easy to have another character counter that Danny is underestimating Matt.
      Lots of writers, I’m sure you know, are fanboys as well. So sure they can express their opinions through the characters. And many of those opinions take stats and feats into consideration.. and many don’t.

    I don't see how that's relevant. Whatever the writers put down on the page and the editors allow is what becomes canon, and Danny's assessment that he is more skilled than Daredevil is canon. Now one can argue that Danny is wrong, but it's not an easy argument to make.

His assessment is definitely canon. That’s my point, not confusing assessments with actual wins. Fanboy writers make many accessments all the time concerning their characters and editors will let those fly a lot easier than actual victories is all I’m saying.

And the argument against classic Danny should’nt be that hard to make.


      I say DD was a match for classic Iron Fist.

    And I agree. When they had a brief skirmish under Frank Miller in the 80s, they looked at least even with Daredevil maybe looking slightly better. Iron Fist has gotten some power creep since then though.

Right. Which is way I think current IF takes DD.



        Again, T'Challa himself is one of the best fighters in the Marvel universe, is one of the smartest men in the world, and is noted for being noble and honest. Who better could assess the relative skills of Danny and Shang-Chi? Again, T'Challa could be wrong, but there's no indication that's the case.
      I think Danny would say he’s better.

    Well, the two actually fought recently in Iron Fist #7 when Shang-Chi is mind-controlled. During the fight, Iron Fist says that Shang-Chi is probably the only person on the planet who can beat him in a martial arts fight.

True. But he also suggested he was better \:\) ..

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