Dave Galanter
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Subj: Re: are the best fighters among the gods (w/thousands years experience) as good as the streets?
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 at 01:48:20 pm EDT (Viewed 113 times)
Reply Subj: are the best fighters among the gods (w/thousands years experience) as good as the streets?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 at 08:23:50 pm EDT (Viewed 116 times)

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Thor, Hercules, Wonder Woman all are renowned for their fighting skills. Thor is probably the least skilled in hand-to-hand combat among that bunch. Per his own admission, he said of Hercules "in the art of hand-to-hand combat...he is slightly my better. He is Hercules, after all."

But can they compare to the best mortal hand-to-hand fighters? They have thousands of years experience, which should count for a lot. But maybe they haven't studied the various martial arts...

Without powers, how would you rank the following in hand-to-hand combat?

Wonder Woman
Captain America
Black Panther
Shang Chi
Lady Shiva
Black Canary

1. Shang Chi, Lady Shiva, Cassandra Cain (tie)
2. Stick
3. Black Canary (Gail Simone version was said to be a better fight than Batman; not sure about current version of Canary)
4. Batman, Black Panther, Captain America, Daredevil (roughly tied)
5. Deathstroke
6. Wolverine
7. Wonder Woman
8. Hercules
9. Thor

I'd say the reason for this ranking is that the class 100 brick types don't need to resort to their fighting skill on a martial level nearly as much as the street types and so they don't constantly train as hard even though they have hundreds of years of more experience in combat. Wonder Woman trains more than Herc and Thor though as they spend more leisure time on sex and alcohol. But as we've seen, when Herc and Thor have become mortal, they can fight nearly as well as many of the people on the list.

While I rank Batman, Black Panther, Captain America, and Daredevil about equal in skill and Deathstroke very slightly below, I think the outcome in fights among them would be:

1. Black Panther (trumps with vibranium suit and gadgets)
2. Captain America (trumps others with the strongest will and the shield)
3. Deathstroke (trumps Batman and Daredevil with slightly superhuman physical stats and healing)
4. Batman (trumps Daredevil with gadgets)
5. Daredevil

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