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Reverend Meteor

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Trent Trueheart

Subj: Re: The thing that bugs me the most ...
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 at 10:33:49 am EST
Reply Subj: Re: The thing that bugs me the most ...
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 07:41:33 pm EST

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> > > > > > I'm glad people are standing up and puting the needs of the many over the wants of the few. Hopefully this will turn the tide of the entire situation.
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> > > > > > omike015
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> > > > > > \:\-\|
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> > > > > I hope the writers dreams are squashed...there I said it.
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> > > > Is the Writers want more and they're willing to put a lot more people who make even less than them out of work.
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> > > That's my problem with it.
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> > *Ahem* And if the studios gave a damn about them, they'd give the writers what they want. But they studios don't care about the writers, and care even less about everyone else who works in television/film.
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> Yes we should all judge how people care about us by how willing they are to cave to our ridiculous demands.

They're not asking for naked pictures of Bea Arthur. Most of their demands sound pretty reasonable. They are asking for jurisdiction over reality and animation writers, which I think is ridiculous. However, I don't know how big of an issue that is.

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> > > What's really going to be funny is when SAG and DGA go on strike in the near future. The studios are not going to cave to the writers because that will show weakness when it comes time to deal with these two.
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> > But if they give in to the writers, the SAG and DGA wouldn't strike because they would get similar contracts. And I don't know if the DGA will strike. They're more of a "take what they're given" organization.
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> > >
> > > Guilds are evil IMO.
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> > You would know. \:\)
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> Yes. Unlike CA I know I'm evil \:\)

But do evil people know they're evil?

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> > > > The camera crews, lighting, makeup, FX, stunts, etc. All these people aren't working now because of the strike. AFAIK they don't ger residuals on anything. This strike isn't going to improve their lively hood either. I understand (at least to me) being a writer is one of the most creative and difficult things to do. I also agree they do deserve more and I'm sure the studios are being stingy and could afford to pay more. Stepping on the "little guy" to get it though? I wish they could've found another way.
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> > > > I have to give kudos to the talk show hosts for going back to work to support their crew.
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> > > > I think this strike is going to last a very long time and I really don't see the studios giving in to many demands. They'll play up the reality tv/gameshow genre as long as possible and once those initial scripted shows run out early this year (probably sometime in March at the latest) I wouldn't be suprised if we don't see any new scripted shows until 2009.
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> > > > jwd

> > > > > > > I'm glad people are standing up and puting the needs of the many over the wants of the few. Hopefully this will turn the tide of the entire situation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > omike015
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > \:\-\|
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope the writers dreams are squashed...there I said it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the Writers want more and they're willing to put a lot more people who make even less than them out of work.
> > > >
> > > > That's my problem with it.
> > >
> > > *Ahem* And if the studios gave a damn about them, they'd give the writers what they want. But they studios don't care about the writers, and care even less about everyone else who works in television/film.
> >
> > Yes we should all judge how people care about us by how willing they are to cave to our ridiculous demands.
>
> They're not asking for naked pictures of Bea Arthur. Most of their demands sound pretty reasonable. They are asking for jurisdiction over reality and animation writers, which I think is ridiculous. However, I don't know how big of an issue that is.

I hate the idea that the crappy reality tv writers would get the perks of being in a union/guild. There shouldn't be writers for those shows anyways when you stop and think about it.

But I tend to love well done animation series...if the animation writers and their writers alone were on strike I would support the strike...my cup of hypocrisy runneth over.

> > > > What's really going to be funny is when SAG and DGA go on strike in the near future. The studios are not going to cave to the writers because that will show weakness when it comes time to deal with these two.
> > >
> > > But if they give in to the writers, the SAG and DGA wouldn't strike because they would get similar contracts. And I don't know if the DGA will strike. They're more of a "take what they're given" organization.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Guilds are evil IMO.
> > >
> > > You would know. \:\)
> >
> > Yes. Unlike CA I know I'm evil \:\)
>
> But do evil people know they're evil?
>
> >
> > > > > The camera crews, lighting, makeup, FX, stunts, etc. All these people aren't working now because of the strike. AFAIK they don't ger residuals on anything. This strike isn't going to improve their lively hood either. I understand (at least to me) being a writer is one of the most creative and difficult things to do. I also agree they do deserve more and I'm sure the studios are being stingy and could afford to pay more. Stepping on the "little guy" to get it though? I wish they could've found another way.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have to give kudos to the talk show hosts for going back to work to support their crew.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think this strike is going to last a very long time and I really don't see the studios giving in to many demands. They'll play up the reality tv/gameshow genre as long as possible and once those initial scripted shows run out early this year (probably sometime in March at the latest) I wouldn't be suprised if we don't see any new scripted shows until 2009.
> > > > >
> > > > > jwd


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