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mjyoung

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atrimus

Location: Saint Louis, MO
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 2,489
Subj: Re: Is it racist to say Obama looks like a monkey?
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 05:11:19 pm EDT (Viewed 762 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Is it racist to say Obama looks like a monkey?
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 04:33:00 pm EDT (Viewed 863 times)



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    i personally don't find either of the three above remarks racists. but i do have a question. if you're mindful of the fact that throughout a lot of America's racist past, blacks were derogatorily likened to monkeys, don't you think it would be prudent not to liken America's first black President to a monkey?


So you're asking me to be selective (aka discriminate) based on race? I'd rather just be color blind, and not let a person's race effect my decisions. Any joke I say in the presence of my white friends I will say in the presence of my black friends.


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    and some people do have a point. it simply depends on the person, the claim, the intent and the overall situation. to generalize people who might actually have authentic claims just makes it seem like you're desensitized to the situation.


I never said that they all never had a point. People are smart. People are caring. People are all things.

I tend to put no real emphasis on race. Obama being elected as the "first black president" isn't historic to me, nor is the first hispanic Superme Court Justice. Or the first black coach to win a Superbowl. Etc.


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      The simple truth is that people no longer adhere to the traditional standard of racism, a negative discrimination based on race. Now it simply means anything that is a negative discrimination of a racial minoritiy. For instance, when white firefighters in New England didn't get a job promotion because of their race, many said that wasn't racism. Yet it was.



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    i can't think of any case where anyone adhered to your former definition of discrimination, only because until recently, i can't recall any situation where discrimination was against the racial majority. discrimination has always been against racial minorities. that's probably why people find it hard to see racism against racial majorities in the nowadays.


Depends on what you mean by recent. There were cases of reverse discrimination (aka discrimination against the racial majority) in the 70s. And considering that racial discrimination wasn't outlawed into the 1960s, that's pretty far back.




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