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thorfan

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mjyoung

Subj: Re: and I'll always disagree with him
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 at 11:42:25 pm EDT (Viewed 691 times)
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 at 01:58:36 pm EDT (Viewed 780 times)

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      Wow stop the presses! Bill cosby has spoken up about a racial issue and sided with those of us who saw the Joe Wilson debacle like it was, a bigoted racilly charged moment in it's purest form, if not then we must admit to a few BIG coincidences, first black president, first time that i can remember a president being called a liar to his face in front of the entire assembly of the house and senate by a member of congress, but the powers that be still believe that you can spit on my hand and say it's raining or more to the point that "there was nothing racial about that" please.... he would not have done that to ANY past president, so now that Bill Cosby a once conservative talking head darling do to his "speaking out" on the plight of black youth has broken ranks by declaring this a racial incident how quick before the right wing label him? Some guest on o'reilly have all ready expressed their disappointment in his remarks, and it's funny how a racist like bill o'reilly dismisses every incident of racism as "silly" they have effectively created an atmosphere where racism can be practiced without them ever having to be called on it, like the "9-12" project by saying "it's only the fringe" when people hold signs about the POTUS questioning whether or not he was born here or saying that he's in with the terrorist or that he's a muslim as if there's something wrong with being a muslim, but of course thats just the "fringe" of the right wing and not the whole party, hmm I wonder why the the same "that doesnt represent the whole group" doesnt apply to acorn, oh well thats another post.


I saw an article on yahoo.com with the headline "Is the race card played too much?" and thought of you.

I also remember you saying that you weren't going to start any more race threads. What happened to that?

The problem with calling Wilson a racist because of this example, means that you have to be 100% certain that if Obama was white, he wouldn't have made that comment. I don't see how anyone can say that seriously.

I'd also degree with remarks that since he is a member of the "Sons of the Confederacy" group, which has known racists, that he is somehow racist as well. That doesn't mean anything.

Presidents have been insulted by members of Congress numerous times in the past, so this is nothing new.


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    ...but this time I don't. It was the height of disrespect what Wilson did. Sadly enough I'm sure the people now donating to his campaign because of his lack of tact are as racist as you would expect them to be.


I'd agree it was disrespectful, and his apology was complete crap. But it he will probably lose his next election because of it.


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    I liked how Obama showed class by simply refuting that it was a lie and just moved on with his speech.


Obama also stated that race had nothing to do with it. I'm not sure how else Obama responded to this incident, or how he refuted the "lie".

The issue Wilson has is that before all of this, the Democrats refused to put in specific legislation that would prevent illegal immigrants from receiving these benefits, as documentation of citizenship was not required. But after this incident, the Democrats put this clause into the document, so in effect, Wilson won.



So mjyoung says i play the "race card", well let me explain the "race card". If I am speeding through a school zone, and a cop stops me and cites me, and i scream "you just stopped me because im black" THEN im playing the race card, if i get fired from a job, for being lazy and the evidence shows that im lazy and i scream you fired me because im black THEN im playing the race card. Pointing out blatant examples of racial injustice or bigotry is not playing the race card, you may not agree with me and thats fine, personally I think the tables have simply been turned, someone has figured out that if you accuse people of playing the race card then you can turn a legitimate claim of racism into someone simply crying wolf, and i gotta hand it to ya, it's a good tactic, it's like Bill O'reilly insulting the patrons of Sylvia's soul food restuarant then saying "oh that's just silly" when he's called on it. Your logic has flaws in it. I dont need to be 100 percent certain, im not 100 percent certain that the men that beat emmett till to death for whistling at a white woman would have reacted differently had emmett till been white but "if" my aunt had nads she'd be my uncle, mjyoung tell me this if you can, name for me another time in THAT setting that a congressman has so disrepected the POTUS, maybe Joe Wilson's belonging to the Sons of the Confederaacy doesnt make him a racist but it sure doesnt help, nor does saying that Racist Hypocrite Strom Thurmond's daughter(the black one) should have kept quiet because she's a "taint" on his legacy, i think his actions speak louder than i ever could, tell you what when my son can go into his own driveway without fear of being shot by a cop because he's driving his OWN car who the cop thinks is stolen even though he has no proof of it and shoot him on the ground no less THEN i'll shut up about race, not one minute more, oh by the way that's a true story, happened to a young man in Bellaire Texas


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