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Subj: I'm trying to push things for the sake of discussion
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 at 08:55:37 pm EDT (Viewed 1001 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Well that really depends on how far you go back
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 at 03:28:51 pm EDT (Viewed 963 times)

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    Only about the 1800s did it become an insulting term. The latin word for black is niger. Language and words change over time, simple fact. N---er, Negro, Colored, Black, African-American, as so on and so forth. . . hehe, appearantly "socialist" is code for racism now according to some.

    Back to the original point of the confederate flag. You allow for bigotry when you allow other people define you or your symbols. Expecially if its a symbol or has a history that you do not truely understand. You have decided that the Confederate Flag is something to be ashamed of, and you want to discriminate against them for it. It is just as "racist" as deciding that the Mexican Flag is something to be ashamed of, and wanting to discriminate against it.

forgive me if i've misinterpreted what you've said, but i'm hesitant to agree. it's kinda unrealistic to expect people not to draw an ultimate (be it negative) conclusion about something that's stood for so many things--one of them being a state's right to own slaves. keep in mind you're dealing with a negative topic that for a lot of people supplants any positives the flag stood for. it might be narrow-minded to put a specific meaning to something that has multiple meanings, but i don't think it's bigotry.

to compound the matter you have separatists and hate groups even now, who've either adopted the flag itself or parts of the flag, to spread their messages of hate. i'd say these groups should be far more of a concern to non-racists supporters of the flag than opponents of the flag are a concern.

and i'll probably get in trouble for this one too \:\-\)

but there are also radicals in every civilization and every push. Let me throw out something else. Islamic symbology, it stands for many things. Both recently and historically there have been huge racist connections to it. To condem everyone displaying islamic symbols as a racist would be . . . well . . . racist.

The government of mexico, quite frankly, isn't something to be celebrated either.

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