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Subj: Re: When is a race issue not a race issue? A question for anyone, but I would like the opinions of some blacks
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 at 12:56:32 pm EDT (Viewed 590 times)
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Note: This post is in no way intended to be offensive, insulting, or in anyway cause hurt feelings any person regardless of place of origin, skin color, ethnicity, religion, gender, or anything else for that matter.

From time to time I find myself coming into debates with people over issues that that they claim are racist actions, but I honestly fail to see how. To me it seems they are stretching things way to far or seeing something where there is nothing. I admit racism is still a problem in our world in every country. I admit the media tends to be that sometimes both whites, blacks and people of other races. But sometimes people claim racism where I honestly fail to see any.

So, the following are various times over the years where from either watching the news or just debates I stumble on I have heard claims of racism. I would like the opinion of anyone interested to comment on them. I am not trying to be racist, but I would like the opinions of any blacks on the off chance that because I am not black I am missing something. (Anybody's opinion is welcome.) I know only a very few people might actually consider these issues, but I would like to know where they are coming from or if there really is just nothing there. One or two are racial issues I fail to fully understand and would like someone to please clarify for me.

1. The Peter Jackson King Kong movie, was Kong a representation of blacks being enamored with white women?

2. African-American comedians use the n-word a dozen times in a singe sentence and are complained about some, but often it is let go. White may use the word once in an off hand comment and sometimes the public is not satisfied until they loose their jobs.

3. The animated film "Ultimate Avengers 2," I read a debate where someone claimed that the fact white men (The Ultimates) were coming to help an African nation (Wakanda) was an insult, but if it was the other way around it would have been fine.

4. Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen-I heard complaints that two of the Autobots (the twins) are supposedly caricatures of negative black sterotypes, but one of them was voiced by a black man Reno Wilson. Also, when I saw the movie in theaters and African-American family watching it laughed at the twins and did not seem to have any issues with them. (The theater was not crowded at this time and seeing the twins caused me to remember the news story).

5. Brother Voodoo, the Marvel comics character, has recently become the new sorcerer supreme and is now known as "Doctor Voodoo"(he has an actual phd) and inherited the Eye of Agamotto and cloak of levitation. Someone on another board considers it a state of disrespect that Brother Voodoo changed his name and is using Dr. Stranges "hand me downs"(his words) despite the artifacts being among the most powerful known and while not officially part of the title sorcerer supreme, long associated with the position (Ancient One, Strange, Rintah, Krogurr, Loki). Is this a sign of disrespect to the character that he started calling himself doctor and has the items or is it just smoke?


Again, this post is not meant to offend anyone. I just do not understand where some of these claims are coming from and would like to know if people think there is actually anything to them.

thank you

Interesting post and I'd like to respond to this:

1. The Peter Jackson King Kong movie, was Kong a representation of blacks being enamored with white women?

Not so sure about about this, but I've always thought they took Fay because of her race, perhaps a rare treat for Kong. Look at it this way. The natives of Skull Island were a dark skinned people, therefore all their offerings to Kong were dark skinned girls with black hair. Here comes Fay, a very fair skinned woman with hair the color of gold and sunshine. It's alluded to, in all the movies, that outside people don't visit the island all that much so it's probable that these island natives haven't seen very many (if any) fair skinned people with blond hair. Therefore, they were awestruck by Fay's remarkable beauty and took her, intending her to be a special offering for Kong, who, also having never seen such a woman, fell in love with her.

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