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Jamo

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thorfan

Subj: Re: Comics today versus twenty years ago
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 12:42:46 pm EST (Viewed 669 times)
Reply Subj: Comics today versus twenty years ago
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 at 11:13:54 am EST (Viewed 958 times)



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    I have been reading comics for over thirty years, I have followed the exploits of many characters from marvel, dc and other comic makers. I have seen alot change over the years some things for the better but many imo for the worse. And im wondering if thats because people that are too detached from making good comics are making all of the decisions.



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    Case in point...I remember in the 80s when every interlude actually led you into a new story today however a point can be made in a story and noone ever deals with it, the thought is just dropped like it never happened.


There were some that were never followed thru back in the 80's. There were so many subplots in Uncanny X-Men that Claremont never got to and just kinda faded away. Of course, I think it's mostly because there were TOO MANY subplots and the editors chose to go with one rather than another.


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    People come back from the dead and sometimes there's no explanation for their return, that never used to happen no matter how lame the explanantion there always was one," i was shot into a rocket and before it hit the sun I managed to hit the eject button and some bird people carried me back to earth"


Well, kinda. Again, instances I can think of was the Leader supposedly getting disintigrated in HULK #225, yet showing up again HULK ANNUAL #11 and then later on in various sub-plots leading up to the storyline in HULK #280-284. No mention of how he survived the "death" in #225, yet a small mention that his Humanoids must have saved him in HULK #282.
Years later, when the Leader returned in HULK #331, there was no mention at all of how he survived his dunk in the lava at the end of #284. (I think it was mentioned in a letter column that Omnivac transported him at the last second.)


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    And im sorry but i dont remember comics being late three months at a time in some cases the way they are now. I could point to more examples but you get the point, what im wondering is is this because Marvel is more "corporate" than it was in the 1980s and many decisions are made in a board meeting versus a writers head or am i just off base?


No, late books are just plain unprofessional. Yes, life happens and some things are beyond their control, but c'mon. JMS (on Thor), Jeph Loeb (on Hulk), Mark Millar (on the Ultimates and FF) have notorious reps with schedules these days or in the past. And one can make the argument that today creators are taking on different projects outside the comic industry or the technology makes it more difficult.
That's their fault.
They're given plenty of lead time to turn out a book and no one is forcing them to take on extra products but themselves.
As far as the technology, it's supposed to make things easier for them, not harder.
I'm reading the John Byrne FF Visionaries set, and am amazed at the work Byrne was putting out at the time. Just finished book #4. Read the back of it and the man was writing AND drawing both the Fantastic Four and Alpha Flight, as well as writing the Thing's solo series.
Bill Mantlo and Sal Buscema were cranking out both the Hulk and Rom on a regular basis and if memory serves me right, Mantlo had several minis and writing Spectacular Spider-Man and the Micronauts in `83 and `84 as well.
I think because the Shooter era (and beyond) gets such a bad rap for the heavy editorial influence, that there seems to be a reversal of it these days.





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