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TheForgottenOne

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glibby3

Subj: Socialism misconceptions
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 04:33:54 pm EST (Viewed 17 times)
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Personally, I think we already have too much socialism in the States and don't see adding more as being a good thing. What's wrong with working hard and getting rewarded for it. Nobody should be allowed to have the occupation of "walk to mailbox on 1st of the month". Unfortunately, I have relatives with that job description.

For me to jump on board the socialism train these are some of the things that would need to take place:

1. Everyone contributes to the pot equally whether it be financially or thru works/deeds. Exceptions can be made for seniors of little means and the "truly" disabled.

2. Our government, State and Federal, no longer waste our money worthless projects/programs.

3. No person of able body is allowed to sit on the couch watching Oprah and live off the labors of the rest of the populace.

4. Assistance is actually restricted to the amount that is necessary to live. If someone has enough money to get beer, cigarettes, a new tat, DVD's, and a pedicure then they are receiving too much assistance.

Some complain of class warfare in this country and I think an expansion of socialism in this country would only escalate the situation.

I'll share an anecdote for the type of thing that needs to be put to an end in this country:

A relative was complaining that they were unable to buy a bday cake for another young relative (under 10) because they were out of money. The bday fell at the end of the month. However, on Dec 2 they went shopping and posted pics of the new inflatable x-mas decorations they put in their yard.

When you drive around this holiday season take pride in the decorations you see because you may have helped pay for them.

People seem to think that socialism is when the government regulates everything and everybody gets treated exactly the same and made the same amount of money. This is patently false.

If you examine the history of socialism, which came about during the Industrial Revolution along with capitalism (although Marx would argue that some form of Capitalism, whether it be an Oligarchy or Feudalism, has always been around) you'll see that it doesn't make any sense for socialism to equate government control. The Industrial Revolution was one of several revolutions (American Revolution, French Revolution) that took power away from government control. Socialism and Capitalism were a response to how society was going to manage industry. Would only certain people be in charge (capitalism) or would everybody who works at the factory get a piece of the pie (socialism). That's what socialism is, workers having control over a means of production (unless you read Websters or American College dictionary but they are WRONG).

The money people make in Socialism is determined on how well the you the company you work at does. So if I work at McDonalds, and you work Burger King, and Burger King sells more food than you'll get paid more than I do. So in a way hard work matters more in socialism (because optimumly speaking the harder you work the better your company will do than it does in capitalism where your wages are determined by the whims of a boss.




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