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Would be Watcher

Location: Canada
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Abby

Subj: I just want to bust a myth...
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 at 07:48:19 pm EST (Viewed 1191 times)
Reply Subj: Re: What I get from your post...
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 at 06:11:21 pm EST (Viewed 1181 times)




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        ...without entering in the details of what you said, I think it is essentially a matter of collective values. A majority of people living in the US seem to prefer keeping control of as much money as they can. Value behind : freedom.



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    Coming from someone with no money which I'm sure seems obvious, absolutely not. I just simply believe that we should all be as free as possible to make our own choices. Be free to choose our doctor, be in control of our own bodies and health, not have some bureaucrats in Washington telling us what we can have and can't have due to inevitable rationing.


Who ever told you universal health care was anything like that? I always had the choice to see the doctor I wanted. The bureaucrats are not there to tell you or the doctor what to do. They are only there to administrate the transactions. For a rich person a universal healthcare is probably not a great news at all. It's for the poor that the benefit is undeniable.


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    The US also just has a different financial structure than Europe for now, we wont be able to pull off UHC even a quarter as good.



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      As someone who live in a society with universal healthcare, it's always a strange feeling to hear about it from the perspective of those who don't. The way it is demonified in your country is culturaly very interresting. Not many think like you do where I live and they indeed have to pay more tax to sustain the public services. Far from me the idea of pretending universal health care is without flaw of course. After all, the weight of the system is huge and many try to balance public and private. Like many have already suggested I agree that investing in prevention would yield far better results down the line and cost us all a lot less. Anyway, the idea I wanted to express is, for a majority of us here, it is morally unacceptable to refuse health care to someone in need regardless of his ability to pay for it. You are a citizen, you are covered. The healthy and the non-healthy contribute to the pot, relative to their capacity of course, and those who need it use it. Nobody is above illness. Not being rich and having required hospitalisation I can say without a shred of a doubt that I'm VERY please to contribute to the pot hoping with all my hearth never to see that money again in my life. In the US it seem like people goes the other way... they resent not seeing that money ever again.



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    Our current health care system is broken without a doubt and needs reform. The current system we have is operating under a severely broken model of capitalism. I think we can achieve Health Care for everyone without the Government running the entire medical sector, through interstate competition, tort reform, and a big revamp in medicaid for those who are poor.



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    Just want to clarify for people who may be reading this from the fictional boards (The Hulk comic people probably hate me now), I do believe Health Care is a right!


Me too of course.


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      Bottom line, I think a system will work if in accordance with the society's value, not because it is so much better in itself. See what is more important for you and act accordingly.

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