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Would be Watcher

Location: Canada
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
In Reply To
neil

Subj: I understand what you are saying...
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 02:37:21 pm EST (Viewed 786 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Like I said...
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 01:35:37 pm EST (Viewed 734 times)




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      ...when all is said and done it's a question of social value.



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    Isn't that a bit like saying that good health is a matter of preference? It's an over-simplification that ignores how those 'values' privilege and oppress distinct (and oppositional) groups of people.



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...and of course I oversimplified it all. Me saying it's a question of value is my way of saying what works best for me(my culture) isn't necesarilly what works best for all. If a culture is profondly individualistic and liberal down to the lowest social class I don't think imposing a more socialistic system is a good thing. As long as they know why they chose a system over another and it pleases the majority because it's more in tune with their collective values who am I to say it's wrong? Of course I prefer UHC for many reasons that are my own as a result of where I came from and who I chose to be (when the choice was mine) but if I was valuing freedom supremely above everything else it would make sense to choose an non-UHC system. If even the poor think it's best that way because it makes more sense for them and they think, knowing all the variables, that it offer them better perspectives if only spiritually...
 
I find my system to be better morally but thats probably partially because my moral set is different. Long story short, as long as we collectively assume our social choices who am I to judge? I particularly hate it when our southern friends look down upon us so I try to tell myself maybe I don't get it because it doesn't make sense for me at this point... They do have a long story of puritanism and calvinism who, unlike christians who were all about self sacrifice and charity to earn their entrance into paradise, were equating ones success in life as a measure of worthiness in the eyes of God. Right there with that background those who are poor can't be seen the same and the relation with material success is obviously VERY different culturally. In one instance they are the children of God while in the other they failed to honor God's gift to them...
 
Anyway... I fear I went a bit far as I'm not an American culture specialist  at all and I oversimpolified it again... sorry. I just wanted to highlight the possible social differences possibly explaining why a different social choice would make sense.



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