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Subj: Re: I will put this up here because the "Right" dont seem to post these as much as the "Left" here...
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 at 07:16:50 pm EDT (Viewed 221 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I will put this up here because the "Right" dont seem to post these as much as the "Left" here...
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 at 01:03:24 pm EDT (Viewed 224 times)
Quote:I think the nobody would be for either of them.
Quote:That said, I think hypocracy is in play for many on the right at this point. As many calling for civility now were doing these things in terms of horrible gestures. Many were not shooting people up but there were examples of it. Just not congress people.
There also were not multiple instances of campus rioting over comedians acts and free speech. Many of those defending Griffith were telling the students how wonderful they were for not letting the right wing nut jobs have their speech. (I agree that the speakers they were referring to were nut jobs, not on preventing them from speaking)
Quote:Does not make what is done ok or what was done ok at all. I just think we need to be careful with blanket covering ideology. There are issues with some things on campuses in terms of the ideological left more than anything.
That's fair as well...though in my blanket I cover them both. BOTH sides are guilty of pointing fingers as they speak out of the side of their mouths. The "Right" have been doing it all through Obamas terms.
Quote:On the right, I think the fact that there is a counter reality by the conservative media (that Trump seems to live his life by) is a huge problem.
I think anyone who looks at the news rationally can see there is an extreme left bias to it. They can also see that Trump just spouts lie after lie after lie and plays the victim card at every turn...despite being guilty of a good percentage of what he is accused of.
Quote:The president deserves all the criticism that he has gotten to this point. Does not mean that some people will not do things they should not. It always will, but I see no reason people should not be free of critiquing the president.
Oh by all means. He has much to be called out for...I prefer not to hear about how he gestures, the 1000th joke about tiny hands or eats 2 scoops of ice cream etc...its just petty attacks. But hold his feet to the fire...he has much to answer for I agree.
Quote:If anything, it is a bit disturbing to me that Trump is not held more to task for the staggering numbers of outright lies and half truths he and his administration tell that warrant the harsh criticisms in the first place.
He does seem to be pathological in his lying...either that or hes extremely talented at manipulating things on a unheard of level with his chaos.
Quote:Also, you are incorrect, the Gifford thing is discussed a few threads down. I am not sure why you think the political right has to be championed here. Neither ideology is inherently right or wrong.
Agree...but go ahead count up the posts. There is a clear bias. Both sides are guilty of trying to not take the blame for their own actions. I'll give you the "Right" is doing this at a higher rate...but at some point you just have to hold them BOTH accountable.
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