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Subj: Edit: we were referring to different articles that you posted
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 at 05:17:30 pm EDT (Viewed 1056 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Systemic racism
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 at 04:54:10 pm EDT (Viewed 1089 times)

I wasnt dismissing the article. I took away that in the later half the fbi was pointing out that they can't actually get reliable data on police killings. which is why it makes it hard to counter mr Elder's point.

Which was my whole damn point of trying to get a point to counter him. You just linked to an article and said "there it is. it's all in there."

Ok which point did you want me to take away? That police killings are going down? That whites are shot more than blacks? That it is almost impossible to compile data on police killings?

Did you actually watch the video? I'm still wondering what you saw as a rant?

So what point would you give to counter Mr. Elders? I won't even ask you to back it up. What is your answer to "Give me an example of systemic racism?"

If you still want to.

Its pretty clear we are having a breakdown in communication.

Edit: Looking back, I realise we were talking about different articles. I was referring to the BBC article you posted and I see that you were referring to the by the numbers article. I'll read that one now but it does illustrate my point about your style putting me off. I only speak for myself and maybe your tone works for you in other circles.

Anyway, its kind of funny now that I look at it. I had no fricking idea how you thought an article about the difficulty of gathering reliable data would persuade me.

Ha, ha.

    Did you or did you not read the article I provided and say the following

    "thats fine. But again, without stats in support of it, it really falls apart.

yes, but it was in reply to the OTHER article. this is hilarious. I see now why we were getting so frustrated with each other.

I was referring to this info from the BBC article:

Official data on the number of people killed by the police turns out to be remarkably unreliable.
"We can't have an informed discussion, because we don't have data," FBI Director James Comey said in the House of Representatives in October.
"People have data about who went to a movie last weekend, or how many books were sold, or how many cases of the flu walked into an emergency room. And I cannot tell you how many people were shot by police in the United States last month, last year, or anything about the demographics. And that's a very bad place to be."

Which is why I was referring to a lack of stats.