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Subj: Re: Systemic racism
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 at 12:02:33 pm EDT (Viewed 1031 times)
Reply Subj: Systemic racism
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 at 01:28:19 am EDT (Viewed 1185 times)

    I know you guys are probably tired of this topic but these are the buzzwords "systemic racism" and "white privlidge" etc.

    I just wonder if you would have an answer to Elder's question here? It's clear he is talking with stats while the interviewer is talking about generalities.

    "Give an example of systemic racism."


    Please watch the video so you know what I'm trying to get at here because if you answer without doing so, you'll misunderstand my question. I'm not really able to articulate it as well as I'd like. As always, thanks in advance for any replies.

Since Dave Rubin and Larry Elder are both Americans, I'll address the topic in relation to the U.S..

I believe there is no systemic racism in America. There are certainly individuals who are racist, but that's very different from systemic racism.

Most arguments I see which argue that systemic racism does exist point towards various statistics of police shootings, graduation rates, unemployment rates, and rates for loan approvals. Those can vary across America, as it is a very large country. In some cases if we only looked at the numbers of whites compared to blacks, and looked no further, the accusation of racism can be understood. However, in nearly all cases where whites have more favorable numbers, Asians have even more favorable numbers than whites.

So if someone believes those percentages are evidence of racism of whites against blacks, then they must also believe that there is systemic racism against whites in favor of Asians. That seems incredibly unlikely, and not only is there no factual evidence of such, there's no anecdotal evidence either. I've never heard stories of Asians keeping whites from getting home mortgages, or an epidemic of Asian cops shooting whites.

Additionally, there are cases of those statistics existing in states or cities with predominantly black local legislators, black mayors, black state legislators, black governors, and black representatives at the federal level. I fail to see how systemic racism would be allowed to continue in that situation.

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