Previous Post I heard two talk show host on the radio this morning saying that a New York Times reporter had tweeted that Antifa members were there with clubs and flamethrowers but the post was deleted after an hour. Of course, I don't know where they got that information. There is this picture of a flamethrower attack from Charlottesville. Radical fringe groups on all sides are detestable. One asshole with a car was able to kill an innocent and injure dozens other. One nut with a gun tried to assassinate members of Congress. Three scumbags with boxcutters killed 3000 people.

So...being surrounded by armed individuals with torches and starting the beating is a both sides do it situation?

By almost all accounts, outside of Trump's and some fairly conservative ones, the violence seems to have overwhelming come from the white supremacists. And it is not hard to find that in interviews either, many were looking to hurt more people and bragging about it.

Violence is never good, but I feel that by saying everybody in this instance is equally bad is ignoring most news stories of the event and dignifying what the Neo-Nazi and similar groups were doing. I mean there were more of them and they were heavily armed but the other side swang back too.

I do not see a direct connection to the guy that shot the House Rep. It was deplorable too but was not part of an organized movement of violence and hate. He appeared to be a sick and twisted man but that was most of it.

That there is now a debate to sort of dignify what happened with the both side thing in this instance seems a bit insulting to what the US should stand for.

That there are extreme liberal views or those that take them too far is true, but that is not really at the heart of this discussion at the moment or make it ok either. As a country we are also afraid to talk about far right domestic terrorism as well.

I think the most disturbing thing is how the president has handled this. Calling out both sides and waiting ages to do it. He has no problem calling out immigrants or Muslims for things that an individual did or in some cases outright falsehoods but will not condemn anything done by those that even extensively fall under the same umbrella.

That should scare everyone. And that some support what he is saying is scary.