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Nose Norton

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atrimus

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Subj: Re: Regarding that mess in Virginia
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 02:36:39 pm EDT (Viewed 110 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Regarding that mess in Virginia
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 11:30:51 am EDT (Viewed 109 times)



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      But the guy's not going to say "I brought a spray paint and a lighter to attack Nazis". According to the Virginia State Police, no shots were fired during the protests.



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    His is the only account that offers any context to the photo.



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    That said, you're right; other than making an assumption using body language, there's no way of knowing who the instigator was. So to claim that it's Antifa (as Jesusfan did) is just as faulty.


I agree. There's no telling who started it. But, there's no gun in the photo, either. If what he said is true, this isn't self-defense but retaliation. The Nazi could've been assaulting him with his flag, but we don't know. Has anyone corroborated Corey Long's account? A gunshot fired into the ground with people around would be noticed and most likely reported. It would also leave evidence that any reporter should be able to find. But at this point, all we have and probably all we will get is the photo and one person's account. It's pretty amazing that someone got that photo given that the flame probably only lasted a second or two.

As a continuation of my first post from yesterday, the reporter that I heard about on the radio was Sheryl Gay Stolberg of the NY Times. She tweeted that " The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding "antifa" beating white nationalists being led out of the park". She then switched "hate-filled" to violent, and then deleted the post all together because of the backlash she recieved. I find it disgraceful that a New York Times reporter would supress news due to pressure from twitter.

https://twitter.com/SherylNYT/status/896575560650035200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fconservativereview.com%2Farticles%2Fdid-a-nyt-reporter-get-bullied-into-changing-her-reporting


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      http://freebeacon.com/issues/virginia-state-police-say-didnt-find-weapons-caches-charlottesville-despite-mcauliffe-claim/

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        I don't know which way the Washington Free Beacon leans, but I think it's a shame that that's the first thing I wonder whenever I read an article nowadays.

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          EDIT: The Washington Free Beacon is a conservative website. Still, they are reporting what the Virginia State Police stated.



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    Well, regardless of WFB's political slant, the article didn't seem to perpetuate any bias.



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    Still, the VSP are currently under heavy scrutiny due to their lack of response to the violence. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that things transpired (such as shootings) that they might not be aware of.


I agree. Aside from their statement, no one else seems to think that the VSP handled things perfectly.
We will be having protests in Boston tomorrow but I don't foresee things getting out of hand. If they do, there'll be plenty of footage to analyze because they are putting cameras up everywhere.