Quote:So which side did the killing again? Only the alt-right side. I don't see how you can be a Jesus Fan while defending racists. I can't believe I'm quoting Mitt Romney: No, not the same. One side is racist, bigoted, Nazi. The other opposes racism and bigotry. Morally different universes.
Quote:This is no defense of the opinions of the nazi group, they are an ugly stain on humanity. But you either believe in right to free speech, or you don't. The nazi group, as repugnant as I find what they were saying, had every right to be there.
Quote:The Antifa group, as counter protesters, also had every right to be there.
Quote:But both groups were planning this violence. They both showed up with helemts, guns, bats and clubs. They both wanted that fight. The moral preening against nazis is overbearing. These are not actual nazis from WWII. They are ignorant people with horrible, vomitus opinions. And you don't have to agree with their opinion to acknowledge the other side was there to cause violence.
Quote:Only the nazi group killed someone. But everyone seems to have arrived at the opinion that the murder of Heather Heyer excuses the violence of the Antifa group. Antifa are a very violent organization, and they put put multiple innocent bystanders in the hospital that day. Why is that being ignored in the conversation?
Quote:Those who admire nazis are bad people, yes, but that doesn't automatically make anyone they are fighting morally superior.
Antifa should be and has been condemned for their violence. BUT for anyone to equivocate that antifa is JUST AS BAD as neo-Nazis is either on the neo-Nazis' side or don't have a very strong moral sense.
We just had a rally here in Boston. There were about 50 "Free Speechers"; no nazis, no white supremacists. Just a bunch of college age Alex P. Keatons. There were about 40,000 counter protesters. Of those, there were probably 100-200 Antifa members. Since they had no one to fight with they threw rocks and urine at the police who did an excellent job at keeping the peace.
In Virginia there was violence from both sides and it escalated until an innocent person was killed. In Boston there was violence from one side and thank god there were no serious injuries.
Don't question my morality for thinking one hate group is as bad as another.