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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Sumidor

Member Since: Sat Feb 25, 2017
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Subj: Re: Regarding that mess in Virginia
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 at 11:05:17 pm EDT (Viewed 75 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Regarding that mess in Virginia
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 at 10:53:25 pm EDT (Viewed 68 times)



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      Again, antifa should be condemned for their violence. HOWEVER, that does not make them just as bad as neo-Nazis and your and Trump's equivocation here is morally corrupt. Antifa was violent, but they didn't kill anyone. A neo-Nazi did kill someone. A neo-Nazi drove a car into a group of counter-protesters and injured 19 of them. One group was promoting racism. The other group was protesting against racism. How can you remotely put them on an equal moral plane? Antifa has not killed anybody. Dylann Roof killed nine people. I guess they are the same to you though. That is disgusting.



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    James Fields and Dylann Roof are vile individuals. I've never said otherwise.


But what neither you nor Trump can say is that they are worse than antifa. Do you agree with Trump that among the neo-Nazis and white supremacists were some "very fine people" too?


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    I'm honestly tired of explaining the difference between supporting nazis and supporting free speech.


I'm fine with neo-Nazis have free speech rights. I'm also fine with counter-protesters, who, contrary to Trump's assertion, did have a permit to march against those neo-Nazis, but I'm not about to condemn both sides equally.


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    I don't know how to have a conversation with someone who keeps saying I have a weak moral sense or am morally corrupt.


Because you think antifa and neo-Nazis/white supremacists who actually murder people are on the same moral plane. This is a total political free throw for Trump and he threw an air ball in response. Denise Morrison, CEO of Campbell Soup, after resigning from Trump's advisory board, stated this really simply, "Racism and murder are unequivocally reprehensible and are not morally equivalent to anything else that happened in Charlottesville. I believe the President should have been - and still needs to be - unambiguous on that point."




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