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MysteryMan

Member Since: Fri Apr 28, 2017
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Trent Trueheart

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 557
Subj: Re: So far 300,000+ signatures requesting that antifa be called a terrorist group by The White House (edited)
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 at 02:57:15 am EDT (Viewed 149 times)
Reply Subj: Re: So far 300,000+ signatures requesting that antifa be called a terrorist group by The White House (edited)
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 11:45:02 am EDT (Viewed 152 times)



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                No, I don't think Black Pride is racist, because in this context black pride is more about black culture and black heritage in America. The reason "White Pride" doesn't work in the context of culture is because whites who migrated to this country did so voluntarily, thus they retained the cultures distinct to their place of origin. Irish, German, French, Spanish and Italian; these cultures are all celebrated in the US with nary an issue from anyone. Blacks don't have this privilege. Our ancestors came here involuntarily, and in the process their African cultures were taken from them. And since we're obviously not of European ancestry, this left us with no choice but to form our own culture through a shared history that stretches no further than to slavery in the US.

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                You stated that just the words White Pride sounded racist.
                To me that clearly sounds of a racist view, since you based it on nothing other than the 2 words.

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                  We have an African American month. Is Black history celebrated or not during this time?

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                    So you formed your own culture? Why are you now segregating yourself? Why can it not be part of the melting pot of American culture? I tend to believe it is myself...why the desire to segregate it though?

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                      IMO this is one of the problems in the USA. We all live in the same country and all "should" have the same rights. But everyone seems to be promoting THEIR racial-sexual-etc culture over others. And no I am not giving "Whitey" a pass here..."Whitey" has this problem on an epic level.

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              You're right that it is a problem, but the problem really lies with you and people like you. You see people celebrating what makes them unique in this country and rather than trying to find what makes you unique and celebrating that, you only see them celebrating their race and think that you should also be celebrating your race. The majority of the population in this country is white, which makes it not unique.

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                So I challenge you to go out and find what make you unique and celebrate that. Are you Irish, French, Italian? Whatever you are, that's what make you unique and you should be proud of that.

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            You seem to forget that EVRYONE is unique...ohhh....uhm yeah. \:P

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              I hope you realize "white-people" come from all over the world. And that they are not all the SAME...they are unique from each other.

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                I have no problems celebrating the 5 different nationalities I come from. But I don't call myself... Generic Non unique White-American...I am just an American...of "fill-in-the-blank" decent if someone wants to know where my ancestors came from.

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                  I challenge others to do the same. Otherwise you ARE segregating yourself.

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          Do you think your criticism helps to unite us or keep us segregated?

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        Yes. I hope it does.



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    Yes, you hope it does what...?


Help unite even if its just showing different view.


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      Breaking misconceptions is important. I am not criticizing you as a person. I simply think such views can only keep us separate and divided as a nation.

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        Is there something inherently wrong with wanting a country united as opposed to divided? I am not saying don't celebrate what makes us different and unique. I am saying we are ALL unique and why can we not also celebrate being inclusive of each other?



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    But isn't the issue that certain groups feel like they aren't being included? Shouldn't these groups fight to feel more included?


And they should be included.

But lets be clear I am ok with people celebrating their differences...we all don't want to be 100% the same.

But we should also celebrate our similarities...our shared cultures.


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    The problem I have is it seems like instead of trying to fix problems, you'd rather throw away the measuring stick so that we no longer see that these problems exist. If we all just view ourselves as American, then there is no longer a problem with African-Americans being overrepresented in our prisons and underrepresented in our media.


No. Perhaps I would like them to be viewed not as African Americans, but as Americans. And that they should be treated and share in the same rights as every other American. The term African-American is a bad label imo. It essentially segregates them from the rest of plain ol Americans, by stating they are different.

I am not saying ignore issues of unfairness...I am saying treat everyone equally under the law.


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    On the other hand, that means that you can't complain when they cast a black actor in a traditionally white role. After all, you just see them as Americans, right? If you complain, that means you believe in segregating black actors to black roles.


Have I done so? While I prefer movies of books to portray the characters as they were, or at least close to their concept when have I said for example I hate that Black Tower actor.

You seem to think that Americans should actually be labeled or a measuring stick should be put in place so we are all called...

"Fill-in-your-skin-color"-Americans

I hope one day it will just be Americans.


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