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MysteryMan

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Subj: Re: In Regards To The Vegas Shooting, How Long Before It Will Get Politicized? Also, This Case Doesn't Make Sense.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 at 01:22:04 pm EDT (Viewed 91 times)
Reply Subj: Re: In Regards To The Vegas Shooting, How Long Before It Will Get Politicized? Also, This Case Doesn't Make Sense.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 at 01:16:06 pm EDT (Viewed 101 times)



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          Every time some act of gun violence or some terrible mass shooting happens, we either get the media or some political pundits who start to call for stricter gun laws, or who are going to start bashing the NRA, etc. I'm wondering how long this will take. So far, luckily, it seems that people have been focusing on mourning the victims and praising the police. I hope that this remains the case. But I'm sure that it's just a matter of time before this starts.

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          While I think we need to be extremely cautious about gun sales I am not myself per se against them. As for terrorist acts...you build bombs with fertilizer and house hold chemicals. I don't think we can stop all such violence...until we do a mental change/shift culturally and educationally. The answer is not as simple as...don't let anyone buy any guns, prohibition does not work in this country.

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              Also, in regards to this case, how did he manage to keep 23 (Was it 23?) guns in a hotel room? Did he never leave the room? Doesn't housekeeping check everything? It sounds kind of strange that he would be able to stockpile in a hotel room, especially in Vegas? Do they not check your stuff? I'm sure that things will change after this.

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              He could have left a do not disturb sign out and walked it in piecemeal.

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                I am more curious how owning that many guns on record I assume. How did that not set off any "watchdog" alarms.

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        They were bought from a few different shops and records are not allowed to be stored by the FBI. If you pass a background check they do not store your information anymore than that.

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          If you are clean than you could potentially buy however many guns you could without any red flags. Other than maybe the guy selling them to you questioning it. Just pick a few shops and mix in buying online. It is hypothetically incredibly easy.



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    Any word on them banning the device that allowed him to turn them automatic? I heard it was legal but was being reviewed even before this happened.


It has been brought up in the Senate by Diane Fiensten (probably spelled that wrong). Some Republicans are open to the idea and many experts on guns seem to be open to the idea.

It is still an uphill push that largely depends on what side the NRA comes down on. It is not a gun, but it is a strange area.

Seems like it should be a no brainer at this point. It should be the minimum done to ban items like that. The other thing, IMO, is reform of the background check system and federal laws to improve consistency.

What I mean is right now we have a patchwork of laws that make it really easy to get guns in some states but not others, it would be easier to have a minimum set. The FBI criminal database is not consistent either. Most information is put into it voluntarily. So, it has big gaps in it as it is.

Also, noting or flagging individuals that buy lots of guns in short periods of time should probably be considered but anything approaching a registry has been an auto death in legislatures before.

To your point, it is being proposed. If it goes anywhere or not is another issue. And it largely depends on if the gun lobby is onboard. They have killed most legislation. Even fairly mild stuff in recent years.




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