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Subj: Re: The problem with using the bioble as a daya source...
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 at 02:03:47 pm EDT (Viewed 455 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The problem with using the bioble as a daya source...
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 at 12:27:31 pm EDT (Viewed 508 times)



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        ...is that at best it should be used for inspiration, or as something to make you think and try to have a better way of life.

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          For the most part it's morals and teachings are not too bad. Where it breaks down is when it singles out people to "condemn" directly or indirectly.

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        I am sympathetic to this to some degree. And I think the Bible can help with morality lessens in places. But it is not great at it.

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          The book of Leviticus alone is pretty much going after things and people one after the other.

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            Honestly, many people of faith are good people. Even if they go with contradictions or whatever else. However, it seems more and more (or at least to the vocal parts) that religion is often used as just another way of hammering whatever reality or view a given group thinks or wants through and forcing it onto others.



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    I dunno. It's kinda hard to say people of faith are good when it seems like a vast majority of them (or a very vocal minority, anyway) are openly hateful of anyone who lives antithetically to their worldview. To me goodness isn't good if its doled exclusively by condition or under the umbrella of judgement.


Yes, I just can never really tell what percentage it is. I always assume (rightly or wrongly) that if we are talking about a group that most of the people are probably more indifferent than anything else. It is a varying size minority that bring on the negative feelings.

Once that happens, than they can start dragging others with them. Just my preference of wording I guess. As I know many people of faith that are not homophobic and do not make much issue of it unless this sort of thing comes up and they are generally against the churches etc. that are hateful. Maybe they are a minority though.

But the Catholic church has been against birth control since the beginning. Most Catholics in the US are fine with it and use it. So, most people tend to pick and chose. Which in many respects makes some of the more hateful sects all the worse.


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      It is not unique to religion but they use it as a hammer more and more. And that gets old really fast. And it is based on unassailable principles to those people. How does one debate with God? any god.

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        Most people are decent enough but you just need a few that push hard enough and people will go to their camps. Anymore Christianity (the biggest in the US) is just part of tribalism. Just another tent for people to flee into. Just like any political ideology. At least in many regards.



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    Tribalism is the crux of it all. It's easy to forego critical analysis when you have others with like-minded views appealing to your base sense of comfort and confirmation-bias.



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        Since mankind's hands have touched this...even if it had been pure when 1st written it has been changed to essentially help whoever was politically in charge at the time to keep their power and agendas moving forward. essentially imo...even if its 1st iteration was actually pure...it is now corrupted.

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          Also...I always found that line about..."Thow shall have no other gods before me"...seems like an outright admission that God is not the ONLY god out there. ;P





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