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Unstable Molecule

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Ancient One 

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Subj: Slightly OT but related...
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 at 09:46:46 am CDT (Viewed 544 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The problem with using the bioble as a daya source...
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 at 02:30:44 pm CDT (Viewed 484 times)

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    Quote: that at best it should be used for inspiration, or as something to make you think and try to have a better way of life.

If you cut about 75% of it out, it might be good for that purpose. Unfortunately many people, like our friend Jesusfan, believe that every word, every line, and every commandment is the true word of god, and must be obeyed.

And...honestly, there are much better books out there to take inspiration from.

    For the most part it's morals and teachings are not too bad. Where it breaks down is when it singles out people to "condemn" directly or indirectly.

I'd argue strongly against that. The bible is absolutely filled, cover to cover with immoral teachings.

The ten commandments aren't the best code to live by (a few are good, but otherwise...), but it's easy to forget that in the very next chapter we get the first of many laws FROM GOD condoning slavery. And even how to trick your fellow Hebrew into being your slave for life when it's time to let him free. And the book goes morally downhill from there.

    Since mankind's hands have touched this...even if it had been pure when 1st written it has been changed to essentially help whoever was politically in charge at the time to keep their power and agendas moving forward. essentially imo...even if its 1st iteration was actually is now corrupted.

How do you mean 'since'? ONLY mankind's hands have ever touched it. It's very clear even from a cursory reading that any 'universal truths' that are in it are there simply because they're universal - passages on love for example. But the primary focus of the laws and moral codes is on nothing more than Jewish life in iron age Israel.

    Also...I always found that line about..."Thow shall have no other gods before me"...seems like an outright admission that God is not the ONLY god out there. ;P

Absolutely. You'd think he'd have said 'I am the one and only god', or something like that. But at the time it was written, the Canaanite pantheon hadn't disappeared from the Jewish culture. Many Jews still worshipped other gods. And that commandment reflects that thinking.

Ancient One - you seem to be an authority on this (good on you - it's always a pleasure to see someone will a clear understanding of both the good and the bad in the Bible). Can you answer a question for me? I think a lot of people mistakenly believe that the Golden Rule comes from the Bible. I don't think it's in there. Can you confirm?

I try to live my life by the Golden Rule as opposed to the Bible. But then I've never been all that religious. I gave up my imaginary friends decades ago. ;\-\)

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