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MysteryMan

Member Since: Fri Apr 28, 2017
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atrimus

Location: Saint Louis, MO
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Subj: Re: People can correct me but...
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 at 12:23:36 pm EST (Viewed 99 times)
Reply Subj: Re: People can correct me but...
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 at 05:35:39 pm EST (Viewed 87 times)



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                    I am being serious. This is not something that I see people discuss offline.

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                    It used to mean fighting for equality, rights, and against social inequalities in the world. Ex: Martin Luthor King would be a SJW.

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                      It has morphed as all things do (Ex: Swastika used to be a symbol of peace, # used to be number or pound sign not hashtag, etc...)...now it stands for people who jump on the "politically correct" bandwagon with little understanding of why...just because they want to appear like one of the social "good guys", fit in, etc...I could be wrong but I think its a term the Right also uses against liberals....of course liberals call the right Nazis and other things as well.

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                        I also think it has gained the reputation as very superficial...as people are ordered according to superficial surface traits. Ex: I watch Bill Maher and they constantly use the term White Men of power doing something bad. When the non-racist way to say it would be a Person in power who happens to be White and Male...would it not? And sure there are more White Males in power...but the real trouble seems to be in this world people in power of any race or sex that misuse it as power corrupts.

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                  It's telling that you latch to Bill Maher's commentary as a basis for your argument that SJWs are superficial, when the people who SJWs fight for have been ordered according to superficial surface traits since the dawn of the US ... by people of power who happen to be white males.

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                It's telling how you always focus on the "White" aspect specifically in conversations.

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              It's telling that I'm focusing on a topic that you yourself broached?

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            It's telling that you focused on only one part of what I brought up and exactly in the manner I described...focusing on a surface trait.

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          I'm pointing out one of the reasons SJWs exist, while also highlighting how comparatively pointless it is to get caught up in some debate over the merits of "White Men of power" versus "Person in power who happens to be white and male."

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            But if you wanna focus on what you think I'm focused on then have at it.

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        No you were making a snarky comment "It's telling..." that highlighted exactly one of the problems. Thank you for proving me correct. Have a nice time convincing yourself otherwise. *closes this part of the thread* have at it.



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    I'll apologize for phrasing my argument with "It's telling ...." We've had our share of disagreements before, and I admit that those disagreements contributed to how approached my comment.


Water under the bridge and I will apologize in return for my own snarky replies.


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    That said, I still stand by my original assertion. The thinking that goes behind superficial labels is one of the reason we have SJWs.


Oh I don't disagree...I am saying I think it has changed now. It is now a term referring to those who "jump on a social bandwagon", "focus ONLY on superficial traits", etc...without understanding the whole issue.

You will see above that I admit I recognize there are more White men in power in the USA at least than any other racial group or sex. My point was power corrupts EVERYONE. You can see it in the women and minorities of power as well in the US and around the world...most people in power abuse their power. Not all but most.

I personally think that's one of the best things about Western Culture...its far from perfect, but it is able to change (if slowly) for the better. It has more checks and balances than most other forms of government/cultures (even though they often fail). And it still has a looooong way to go, but it has the best chance to get there when compared to other governments/cultures. At least imho...of course I could be wrong.


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