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Norvell

Member Since: Sun Jan 02, 2011
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Upper_Krust

Member Since: Fri Aug 21, 2015
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Subj: Re: Sure, lets go.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 at 02:53:53 pm EST (Viewed 161 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Sure, lets go.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 at 02:21:05 pm EST (Viewed 164 times)



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      So if any Republican changes to the (Far) Left they can be forgiven in your eyes.

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        As long as you support filth, you are filth.



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    ...and Moral Arbiter Norvell determines who IS and IS NOT Filth, because only he has the truth.


I'm stating my opinion, not stating yours.


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    Since you'll look to turn this around to Trump inevitably; exactly what 'Evil' has he committed?


Well if we define evil as falling below the minimum standards of decency -- such as cheating, lying, stealing (as the Bible would define evil) -- then Trump qualifies as an evil human being. If you define evil more abstractly, like preying upon bigotries and using ethnic/racial scapegoats for his 'supporters' to focus their anger on (aka demagoguery), then he also qualifies there. If you define evil as standing silent in the face of evil behavior (thus empowering evil) -- or further, lavishing praise on the likes of Putin and Deuterte for their authoritarian and murderous actions, then Trump would qualify as evil. Evil could also be (even more abstractly) defined as trying to undermine the qualities of truth, such as when Trump and his minions attack the media for legitimate reporting. Lying to avoid accountability has been defined for many years -- across the political spectrum -- as being a quality of a bad person.

You set the bar for evil at Hitler level or KKK level (barely). I set it lower. I draw my line in the sand at the simplest, barest minimum of human decency. If you can't cross that minimum threshold, you are not a good person. And you sure as hell shouldn't be in a position of leadership. This is simply something we differ on.


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    - Do you mean the Evil of cutting down ILLEGAL immigration...something Obama was already doing.


Calling them rapists, calling all Muslims anti-American.


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    Do you mean the Evil of extreme vetting of migrants from Islamic countries...again you also admitted vetting was already extreme under Obama (and indeed it was Obama's list of especially problematic countries he blocked)


Curiously, Trump leaves out the true source of extremism in the Islamic ideology -- Saudi Arabia. I wonder why. Notice how none of the attacks would have been covered be his 'travel ban'? Curious indeed.


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    Was it the Evil of Birtherism, how dare he question Obama's questionable birthplace...but lets sweep under the rug it was HILLARY who started those rumours.


It wasn't Hillary whatsoever. But I like how you obfuscate the truth by suggesting that one rogue operative who was immediately denounced is equal to running a deliberate and targeted campaign of lies for 6 years. This is what we call a false equivalency. Look it up.


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    ...and Communists the world over did the same.


I'm not a Communist. Maybe you should adjust your aim.


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    Now I do actually agree with you vis-a-vis the Milgram Experiment. But no Authority figure here (whether Trump, Obama, Le Pen or otherwise) is calling for unspeakable atrocities or persecution of anyone upholding the law.


The whole point of neo-fascism is to repackage fascism as legitimate ideology.


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    ...and the racist stuff is totally made up by you to demonize him and his supporters.


Ethnic bigotry also qualifies as racism.


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    Of course they are. Hand wave it away because you haven't heard of them even though the second link specifically had a tweet from one of the co-founders of BLM. Ignorance is bliss.


I don't consider Negradamos a viable leader of BLM. And anyone who suggests that white people should be put in interment camps would be denounced as crazy, unless they were selling an agenda against BLM.


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    I just read it but I don't see what your point is?


That you didn't look for opinion of MLK at the time, and that he wasn't considered the hero then as he is in retrospect.


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    I don't see how any of that stems from anything MLK said as being racist, I haven't seen a single racist quote from the man.


I never made that claim. I said that he was seen as a threat and proponent of violence. You aim is off with regard to my statements.


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    That's because it wasn't evidence, at no point is it referenced that Jane still has all Sif's memories and skills.


List the qualities of worthiness, that have never been defined by any writer. Go ahead.


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