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Subj: Re: The difference between right and wrong, and drawing the line.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 at 05:59:51 pm CST (Viewed 787 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The difference between right and wrong, and drawing the line.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 at 03:59:30 pm CST (Viewed 726 times)

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    Is it? Always? In every case?

Nothing is absolute. To malign, discredit, exaggerate or to avoid accountability are main reasons for lying. Being a deceitful person -- a liar -- is not a positive quality.

    How about a small 'white lie' that harms no one, but saves someone emotional pain, for example?

This is a good point, but even in the case of white lies, the truth is generally preferable. At least among adults. Although answering disparaging to a question like, 'Does this make me look fat?' is not recommended either.

    Would you condemn someone who had no money, and stole food to keep their child alive for one more day? Say someone from a third world country ravaged by famine?

I absolutely wouldn't condemn someone who stole a loaf of bread to feed his family. This is where we get into a grey area of ethics. A moral dilemma.

There are many moral dilemmas in this world. Violence to achieve freedom or independence is another such dilemma. Can terrorism ever be justified? What about terrorism against a regime that is subverting your rights? It's a difficult question.

    Religion? What's religion got to do with it? Thankfully, we don't get our morals and ethics from religion. On the contrary, religion seems to warp morals and ethics out of shape.

I am not a religious person, but many are.

    I don't think it's as clear cut as simply saying 'stealing is bad', or 'lying is bad'. There are grey areas, areas where you have to have some moral give and take. Every case has to be judged on it's own merits.

Agreed. The main point is not to ignore those grey areas, which can always be found, but rather to establish a minimum standard of human decency.

If there is really no God, then NONE can claim there is a standard of absolute truth, so whatever goes, and if killing someone, or raping them is what ones sees as being acceptable, it would be!

Judges and civilzations would just break down, as no real right or wrong!

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