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Subj: Honestly all I see are excuses here
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 at 09:30:45 pm CST (Viewed 773 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The difference between right and wrong, and drawing the line.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 at 02:16:03 pm CST (Viewed 725 times)


      They were specifically non religious...they were in power.
      The 3 greatest mass murdering cultures in the history of the word were
      #1 Communism
      #2 Communism
      #3 Fascism



    Those were arguably* the greatest mass murdering regimes, but you can't blame the entire cultures for their leaders, especially given the way those leaders came into and held on to power.

No they were...look it up. Mao...Stalin...then Hitler

    I say arguably because it's impossible to even guess how many people were murdered in the name of Christianity over the centuries. Between the crusades, the inquisitions, witch hunts, murders for heresy, or being in the wrong subset of Christianity (Protestant v Catholic for example).

      All specifically targeted religions.

Arguably because the facts don't support your argument. How many were murdered over money? Look its hate Christianity. Atheists and Muslims and every other religion just get along so great right?

    When it suited them to do so. More so under communism than fascism. But even Stalin reinstated the Russian Orthodox Church in 1941. Why did he do that? Because he knew that religion was still a major factor in Russia despite the persecutions and he needed something to galvanise the people to patriotic fervour in preparation for war.

You didn't dare go to that church unless you were an old woman. If you say otherwise you don't understand what happened in other countries during this time period. Period.

    And that's the point I'm making here. Stalin may have been an atheist. Many of those in power around him may have been atheists - I dare say some were not. Closet Christians, as it were - but most of the population whether they dared show it or not, clung to some form of religious worship.

Some did some did not...this isn't the point we were talking about though.

    And it's a similar story with Hitler.

    But in any case, the associations don't establish causation. Hitler and Stalin didn't murder millions because they were atheists. They murdered them because they were psychopaths.

Hmmm...maybe the Christian leaders didn't murder people in certain time periods because...oh maybe they were psychopaths and not because they were religious?

You hate religion so much you cant even see this.

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