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MysteryMan

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bd2999

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Subj: Re: The difference between right and wrong, and drawing the line.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 at 10:32:23 pm EST (Viewed 51 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The difference between right and wrong, and drawing the line.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 at 06:50:23 pm EST (Viewed 54 times)



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        They were specifically non religious...they were in power.
        The 3 greatest mass murdering cultures in the history of the word were
        #1 Communism
        #2 Communism
        #3 Fascism

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        No.

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          Those were arguably* the greatest mass murdering regimes, but you can't blame the entire cultures for their leaders, especially given the way those leaders came into and held on to power.

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            I say arguably because it's impossible to even guess how many people were murdered in the name of Christianity over the centuries. Between the crusades, the inquisitions, witch hunts, murders for heresy, or being in the wrong subset of Christianity (Protestant v Catholic for example).

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              All specifically targeted religions.

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              When it suited them to do so. More so under communism than fascism. But even Stalin reinstated the Russian Orthodox Church in 1941. Why did he do that? Because he knew that religion was still a major factor in Russia despite the persecutions and he needed something to galvanise the people to patriotic fervour in preparation for war.

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                And that's the point I'm making here. Stalin may have been an atheist. Many of those in power around him may have been atheists - I dare say some were not. Closet Christians, as it were - but most of the population whether they dared show it or not, clung to some form of religious worship.

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                  And it's a similar story with Hitler.

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                    But in any case, the associations don't establish causation. Hitler and Stalin didn't murder millions because they were atheists. They murdered them because they were psychopaths.



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    This last point is critical I think. And many refuse to acknowledge it. It is like the gag argument "You know who believed in arithmetic...Hitler".


No more so than Christian leaders (and we always bring up the Christians because its not fair to Muslims right?) did it because THEY wee psychopaths and not because religion? Making excuses (in this case being a psycho) for one while not the other is not critical thinking.


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