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Ancient One
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Subj: Re: Honestly all I see are excuses here
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 at 05:42:24 pm EST (Viewed 169 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Honestly all I see are excuses here
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 at 04:43:26 am EST (Viewed 161 times)



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      Arguably because the facts don't support your argument. How many were murdered over money? Look its clear...you hate Christianity. Atheists and Muslims and every other religion just get along so great right?



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    Let's be absolutely clear: I'm not keen on any religion, not just Christianity.



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      You didn't dare go to that church unless you were an old woman. If you say otherwise you don't understand what happened in other countries during this time period. Period.



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    Because old women were the patriots he wanted to send to war? Good thinking, Stalin.



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    It doesn't matter who went, or how often, or if they took their dog and their budgie with them. I'm just saying he did it (and there was a reason he did it), and that's a point of historical fact.



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      Some did some did not...this isn't the point we were talking about though.



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    It's ABSOLUTELY the point. I'm talking about the overall religiosity of the population of a country. I'll set out the argument again:



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    Countries that are less religious - overall, among the population as well as the leaders - have lower crime rates. Countries that are more religious have higher crime rates. Less religious countries also have better records in education, living standards and human rights.


You're sweeping a lot of factors under the rug here. Urban crime is a major contributor to overall crime in the US. As someone born and raised in a rough urban neighborhood, I can comfortably say that very little of it had any religious motivation. I imagine this is the case for most urban crime across the country.


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      Hmmm...maybe the Christian leaders didn't murder people in certain time periods because...oh maybe they were psychopaths and not because they were religious?

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        You hate religion so much you cant even see this.



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    I have no doubt that many of them were. But their primary motivating factor in most cases was their religious belief. Atheism was not the primary motivating factor for Hitler, Stalin and Mao. It's a crucial difference.






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