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bd2999

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Norvell

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Subj: Re: False Equivalency Alert
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 at 03:05:27 pm EST (Viewed 155 times)
Reply Subj: False Equivalency Alert
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 at 12:31:48 pm EST (Viewed 152 times)



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      1. Agreeing with/Retweeting a video is not the same thing as an endorsement of the political party.



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    Funny that just about everyone else on the planet, even people on the fascist side of the argument, disagree with you. David Duke and Fransen are celebrating their victory.



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      2. If a bad person* gives you good advice (and at this point I haven't seen the video so I am only guessing its content is 'beware of whats happening in Europe and don't make the same mistakes' )...its still good advice.



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    The argument itself is a bad one, and is arguably based on lies in the examples it chose. Islam is not represented by one or two or three examples, but rather by the 1.8 billion people who are largely law-abiding.



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      *As I said previously I'd never heard of Britain First until you mentioned it a few days ago (that's how small an organisation they are), so I know very little about them. I DO know that the party they spun out of the B.N.P. who were Far Right and often derided and mocked as Racist. Could just be a re-packaging/rebranding on their part, or an attempt by some to distance themselves from the BNP (likely the former). Either way the bottom line is that (as a political force) no one takes them seriously.



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    Trump just gave them a megaphone from the White House, with his millions of Twitter followers. It's an official statement from the POTUS that will be in the presidential historical records.



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      3. Obama DID actually endorse BLM (an organisation whose supporters have murdered people) and had its leaders visit the White House...so again more hypocrisy from the Left.



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    FALSE EQUIVALENCY ALERT. 99.9% of BLM activities are peaceful and are aimed towards improving black communities and reforming the justice system. The leaders, which you can look up on Google (and not some right-wing fringe site), do not advocate violence but instead offer positive mentorship for black youths and work towards improving community relationships with the police (aka community policing). There are about six visible leaders of BLM.



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    DeRay Mckesson
    Alicia Garza
    Patrisse Cullors
    Johnetta Elzie
    Marissa Johnson
    Tim DeChristopher



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    Go ahead and find violent rhetoric from them.



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    Compare that to the fascist movement of Britain First, which raid Mosques and do nothing but intimidate Muslims and immigrants.


And this is hardly the only such group to support him. Basically, pick a sort of hate group. They are pretty happy right now. Pick a way to divide people and Trump has done it or tried to do it. Or is talking about it.


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    And when did Obama endorse BLM, even if we accept your ridiculous argument against BLM? Was it because he wanted a mutual understanding between black activists and the police?


What a jerk. Wanting police to play nice with people. It is a complicated issue for sure, but it is one worth talking about as a society. We have one side wanting to talk and the other side wanting to support the police doing whatever they darn well please to do. Because they are the police.

Ironically, many of those are the anti-government action party...






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