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Subj: Re: To Anceint one...spam blocked from thread try wikipedia search with
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 at 01:48:15 pm EST (Viewed 154 times)
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 at 09:16:40 am EST (Viewed 155 times)
Quote:USSR anti-religious campaign there are 4 periods in the see also
Quote:Yes, I understand that. But it doesn't go anywhere to refuting the argument that the people of Russia were still religious even though the leaders declared a secular state.
Quote:If Russia truly became secular within a few years of the communists taking power in 1917, there wouldn't need to be any more than ONE period of religious persecution. But you've named no less than four taking place over a long period of time, some seventy years. How could that happen unless the population held on to their religious beliefs?
Quote:Even in 1937, not long after your first example, a poll showed that over 57% of the population were still religious. And I think we can safely assume that there were many others too afraid to tell the truth in that poll.
Quote:Here's what 'quizlet' has to say on the subject:
"How many churches were open for worship in 1940?
Quote:500, one per cent of that figure for 1917.
Quote:What was the impact of the war on religious persecution?
Quote:The War brought a respite to the persecution of churches. Stalin was shrewd enough to enlist religion in fighting the Great Fatherland War.
Quote:Churches were re-opened, and people were encouraged to celebration religious events. For a period of the war, the Soviet authorities under Stalin played down politics and emphasised nationalism.
Quote:In turn, the clergy turned their services into patriotic gatherings. They urged their congregations to rally around Stalin. The reward for the Church's co-operation was the lighting of the anti-religious persecution.
Quote:What was religious persecution like after the War?
Quote:The improved Church-state relations continued after the war, and more churches were re-opened.
Quote:However the price for being allowed to exist openly was their total subservience to the regime. The Church came under the authority of the Soviet Union. They were not allowed to become a source of political opposition".
Quote:Quizlet is a site that provides 'bite size' learning materials for use in schools. Even children are taught and understand that the argument I'm making here is true.
With out getting into an argument over percentages reporting etc...when the RULING class. The class that makes ALL the decisions is a secular one. It is a secular government and it is secularism committing atrocities.
THAT was the initial point of contention. You statement that those states ruled by religion are the most horrible...when the 3 worst in our history were secular run governments...I am just not saying its secularisms fault...but that of people abusing power.
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