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Norvell

Member Since: Sun Jan 02, 2011
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bd2999

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 14,648
Subj: I don't know what it means to be conservative.
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 at 09:44:33 am EST (Viewed 54 times)
Reply Subj: It is bad...
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 at 08:49:22 am EST (Viewed 69 times)



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    although this election is quite a bit closer than it has any real right to be. Alabama is the reddest of red states. And it is basically a tie in the polls. Given the leanings of the state most people will break for Moore in the end anyway, but it is shocking that it is this close.



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    It does partly move along the trend of even deep red areas swinging hard the other way. A few double digit red races have had special election results that were in the single digits and only within a few points in several. I am hoping that points to at least better things to come. At least with holding Trump accountable. Because the GOP has no interest in that at all.



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    Back to the point. Much of the Moore, or even Trump, brand of conservatism is based on victimization. They happily attack others for being too PC but their entire situation is anger that the world is not some idealized thing in their minds. They want their views to be paramount.



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    In many cases, it is the right to hate and discriminate against other people. And that is horrible. Just horrible.



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    Not all conservatives are like that, but it has been a growing movement that has gradually taken the party. It is not that liberals are sunshine and rainbows but by comparison they might as well be in most respects.



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    It does show the hypocrisy in many religious conservative voters. I am sure most of them demanded Frankin resign and others but if it is their guy than evidence is needed. Even if there were photos they would come out saying he was a good man. Not sure I have seen any evidence that Roy Moore or Donald Trump are good men by any stretch. At least not their public faces.


Call me crazy or naive, but I don't understand conservatism anymore. What is it? Can it even be defined? Based on the bizarre array of fringe figures at CPAC, I think they're having a serious identity crisis.

People are now conflating Trump, Bannon and Moore with modern conservatism, and who am I to say they're wrong?

And if Alabama is the reddest state, then the assumption is that they represent a pure, more correct form of Republican conservatism.

I get the nostalgia of the 1950s, but not the 1850s.


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