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Subj: Re: Wonder Woman, Superman, Captain America. As For Claremont
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 at 09:44:39 pm EST (Viewed 418 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Wonder Woman, Superman, Captain America. As For Claremont
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 at 08:31:51 pm EST (Viewed 463 times)

    You can go back to the beginning and surmise (Probably correct.) that the creators had agendas. Wonder Woman was created by a renowned male feminist to represent a positive role model for women. Superman was originally created to be a champion for social justice and to fight inequality. Captain America was created during the second World War (Remember him punching Hitler?). And so on.

Yeah. Everyone's got an agenda. But all agenda aren't equal. Some are good, some are bad.

    As for your other points, yes all of this happened back in the day. Fans were complaining about Captain America and Tony being replaced. And II'm sure that there were people who were complaining about Tony being an alcoholic, or Jean Grey becoming a villain and dying, etc. And surely NOBODY thinks that Tony won't be Iron Man again, that Steve won't be back (Oh, he is? Hmmmm!), that Jane will stay Thor forever, and so on. This has been going on for DECADES! Almost any long-running serial fiction comic character has gone through this.

I think there's less certainty these days, given the nature of the agenda Marvel are pursuing.

    As to Claremont, well he did sideline some characters. He also had a tendency to retcon relationships between characters. Not everything that he did was gold. And then there were the Jean replacements that he wrote.

I certainly agree that not everything Claremont did was gold. I stopped reading X-Men under his tenure. But... who did he sideline? And what relationships did he retcon? Maybe these happened after I'd dropped the book.

Replacing Jean falls into the same category as replacing Captain Mar-Vell. The replacement characters were introduced months or years after the originals had died, and there was never any feeling that the originals were killed simply to make way for new versions.

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